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[JackyJoll]

Only on RTTL would people get hung up on the gender identity of the criminal, rather than the criminal act.

I'm sure the victim here really cared what the person flashing their bits chose to call themselves

Why do you think a flasher story made the paper?

[Mussels]

Bearing in mind that this bloke that S_L linked to is a convicted sex offender and is serving a suspended prison sentence, what sort of jail do you think he should be sent to - a men's prison or a women's prison?

It’s a bloke, so men’s nick.

Mmmm. If you are going to let him pretend to be a woman in all areas of life and law then shirley he/she/it should go to a woman's prison.

It's a bit of a problem for the authorities I guess. Put him in a men's prison and he'll probably get attacked; put him in a woman's prison and women inmates may get attacked.

What a fine mess.

They have already tried putting them in women's prisons, it ended as you'd expect.

[KungFooBob]

[JackyJoll]

the worst forum.

The mind boggles.

[Potter]

Frank Spencer to be knighted.
Rumour is he's being groomed for the PM position.

Have you seen him speak? I actually cringe for him when he's talking, he's horrible.
What's going on in UK politics? Why can't they find people that aren't repulsive?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60609646

[wheelnut]

Frank Spencer to be knighted.

Will he say ‘Ooh Betty’ when Liz touches the sword on his shoulders?

[JackyJoll]

Frank Spencer to be knighted.

Will he say ‘Ooh Betty’ when Liz touches the sword on his shoulders?

So long as he doesn’t do a whoopsy.

[Felix]

Frank Spencer to be knighted.

Will he say ‘Ooh Betty’ when Liz touches the sword on his shoulders?

So long as he doesn’t do a whoopsy.

That was Cleopatra

[Felix]

Wow 35 years since the Herald of Free Enterprise went down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60640660

[Potter]

Wow 35 years since the Herald of Free Enterprise went down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60640660

I remember it and I remember reading about it, it was harrowing.

[Noggin]

Wow 35 years since the Herald of Free Enterprise went down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-60640660

BDad used to 'commute' to Brussels - well, he lived there for work and came back every second weekend to take us out for the weekend.

This happened no long after that time and close enough that it hit me hard just thinking that it could have happened to him (he still went to Brussels regularly but car/boat). It was, as Potter says, harrowing to read

If I remember rightly (from what he said) it wasn't unusual to set sail without the doors fully closed

[David]

I went frm anglesey the weekend after for a telly thing, and the doors were open as we started out.

[Felix]

I passed my test the year before so thankfully the closed doors rules were well in place before i started to cross over by ferry to Euroland.

[Noggin]

It still makes me nervous everytime I use the ferries cross channel. I have zero faith that humans learn from mistakes, so just don't look as it was my only way to cross channel - I have used the chunnel since and it's ok, but has other worries for someone that is quite claustrophobic - I'm ok in most ways but being in a tunnel under a lot of water pushes quite a few buttons in my brain!!

[Horse]

It still makes me nervous everytime I use the ferries cross channel. I have zero faith that humans learn from mistakes

IIRC they took RoRo ferries to the Falklands, carrying military vehicles. But before sailing, they had bulkheads/baffles fitted inside to reduce the likelihood of them capsizing should water have got into the load area.

That was 1982.

[Yorick]

It still makes me nervous everytime I use the ferries cross channel. I have zero faith that humans learn from mistakes,

Must..... resist....must....resist....

[Horse]

It still makes me nervous everytime I use the ferries cross channel. I have zero faith that humans learn from mistakes,

Must..... resist....must....resist....

And why do you think she might have that belief ... ?


It's not like you to be reticent

[Felix]

It still makes me nervous everytime I use the ferries cross channel. I have zero faith that humans learn from mistakes,

I would like to think there is some sort of system in place that prevents the ferry from sailing unless the doors are shut.

[Noggin]

It still makes me nervous everytime I use the ferries cross channel. I have zero faith that humans learn from mistakes,

Must..... resist....must....resist....

Oi, I've learnt - not to crash into the back of astras on the M32 and not to ski amongst fuckwits in February!!

It still makes me nervous everytime I use the ferries cross channel. I have zero faith that humans learn from mistakes,

I would like to think there is some sort of system in place that prevents the ferry from sailing unless the doors are shut.

I'm sure there are systems. Maybe nowadays they are more secure as they are probably computer, not human. There would have been human systems 35 years ago but often in work environments, people cut corners or don't follow the systems

[Beancounter]

There is a series on Sky History “James Nesbitt: Disasters that Changed Britain”. One of the episodes is about the Herald of Free Enterprise. Not sure if the series is available elsewhere but it’s worth a watch. Includes episodes on Grenfell, the Kings Cross fire, the Paddington rail crash and Piper Alpha.