Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered troops into two rebel-held regions in eastern Ukraine, after recognising them as independent states.
Footage released overnight appeared to show Russian military vehicles heading towards the Ukrainian border.
Russia said the troops would be "peacekeeping" in the breakaway regions, which it has backed since 2014.
Listening to R4 the military guy they were talking too said the Russians train regularly to use nuclear weapons in battles. Also the gungho-ness their press seem to have regarding using nukes makes me think they have forgotten the damage they can do.Docca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 11:49 am I’d just like a few months off from not feeling as though the world is going to end.
I can absolutely see this from t’other side btw. Look at the American approach to foreign policy and the false flag incidents of the last 100 + years and you can even become sympathetic to Russia.
That said, Putin is weapons-grade mental. I’m more worried abou MAD now than I was this time last week.
Yeah,there may be fewer pleasure miles this year for a different reason.
Saw the ad for that. 'Wanted, 12 female models, no taller than 4ft 11in'.
When, for example, Romania has greater economic growth, a higher GDP etc than Russia, as it does, his first job is to stop his own citizens knowing about it and comparing lives. Crimea/Ukraine were the easiest first steps but that's probably testing the waters.
Yebutt, for how long will it not be certified? Bet the tune will change if (when?) the lights start going out in Gerrmany ...Supermofo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:32 pm So looks like Nord Stream 2 is off. Presume this link works
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ada72cf545
Glad I filled up with petrol last night cos prices are likely to get interesting.
Also good job my back fence blew down I'll have something to burn when gas costs more than gold
I thought the USA had said they'd make up any shortfall in gas with LNG shipments. Two birds, one stone, cut Putin's income and ship less to energy to China. (Not convinced that there's the infrastructure to deal with that quantity of LNG though).irie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:18 pmYebutt, for how long will it not be certified? Bet the tune will change if (when?) the lights start going out in Gerrmany ...Supermofo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:32 pm So looks like Nord Stream 2 is off. Presume this link works
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ada72cf545
Glad I filled up with petrol last night cos prices are likely to get interesting.
Also good job my back fence blew down I'll have something to burn when gas costs more than gold
Every evening at bedtime?irie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:18 pmYebutt, for how long will it not be certified? Bet the tune will change if (when?) the lights start going out in Gerrmany ...Supermofo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:32 pm So looks like Nord Stream 2 is off. Presume this link works
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ada72cf545
Glad I filled up with petrol last night cos prices are likely to get interesting.
Also good job my back fence blew down I'll have something to burn when gas costs more than gold
Indeed - the Germans have an odd view / relationship with the Russians - it's as though they fear the worst and plan for the best. Why on earth would you put you energy supplies in the hands of Putin....irie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:18 pmYebutt, for how long will it not be certified? Bet the tune will change if (when?) the lights start going out in Gerrmany ...Supermofo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:32 pm So looks like Nord Stream 2 is off. Presume this link works
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ada72cf545
Glad I filled up with petrol last night cos prices are likely to get interesting.
Also good job my back fence blew down I'll have something to burn when gas costs more than gold
AFAIK it doesn't even have a port capable of accepting LNG deliveries, instead having to rely on a port in the Netherlands. The rush towards renewable energy, while turning their back on nuclear, may come back to bite them in the very near future, while France has become the largest exporter of electricity in the world thanks to its nuclear capacity. Even Bulgaria manages to produce a large electricity surplus from its nuclear plants.Mr Moofo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:35 pmIndeed - the Germans have an odd view / relationship with the Russians - it's as though they fear the worst and plan for the best. Why on earth would you put you energy supplies in the hands of Putin....irie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:18 pmYebutt, for how long will it not be certified? Bet the tune will change if (when?) the lights start going out in Gerrmany ...Supermofo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:32 pm So looks like Nord Stream 2 is off. Presume this link works
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... ada72cf545
Glad I filled up with petrol last night cos prices are likely to get interesting.
Also good job my back fence blew down I'll have something to burn when gas costs more than gold
Germany doesn't have one. Not a one. (It has one in the planning stage. Great resilience planning eh?). In theory you can gasify and feed it in almost anywhere - (even here and push it through the Interconnector) into the mainland network. Not quite as easy as it sounds though and the further you push it the more gas you waste. Norway may become their new best friend.Hoonercat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:47 pmAFAIK it doesn't even have a port capable of accepting LNG deliveries, instead having to rely on a port in the Netherlands. The rush towards renewable energy, while turning their back on nuclear, may come back to bite them in the very near future, while France has become the largest exporter of electricity in the world thanks to its nuclear capacity. Even Bulgaria manages to produce a large electricity surplus from its nuclear plants.
