Dynabeads ? Errrrrm WTF

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Don't tyre fitters get annoyed off when they break the bead and stuff pisses out all over their nice tyre machine?
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Is balancing wheels a chore?
I know how to do it, but I've never done it, I pay someone else to fit road / track bike tyres, Rod Harman charges £10 per wheel to fit and balance a tyre at a track day, on dirt bikes I fitted my own tyres but never bothered balancing them, seemed a bit pointless when they were going to be covered in mud.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:58 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:47 am The thing I can never quite figure out with these weights - if they're effective, wouldn't water be equally good? Except you'd need more of it 'cause it's less dense and maybe you don't want water inside your tyres anyway.

Sand? :D
The people who make Slime claim it balances the wheel, I can't see it myself - but it would be very easy to prove one way or the other with a car wheel and tyre and a tyre balancing machine.
It does work, I ran slime in my KTM exc inner tubes, before using slime the road sections was a bouncy affair with a rimlock fitted in each wheel... This is about as bad as out of balance gets, but half a bottle in each tube balanced out the wheels and the road sections were much more comfortable.

(I loved in Somerset at the time and the road bits tended to be as long as the of road bits.)
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KungFooBob wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:37 am Don't tyre fitters get annoyed off when they break the bead and stuff pisses out all over their nice tyre machine?
Doesn’t matter. They’re pissed off (and annoyed off) all the time anyway.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:42 am Is balancing wheels a chore?
Well yeah, this is the main reason I've never bothered.

Give man wheel. Get wheel back with new tyres on and balancing already done. Sorted :D
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:51 pm Give man wheel.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:51 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:42 am Is balancing wheels a chore?
Well yeah, this is the main reason I've never bothered.

Give man wheel. Get wheel back with new tyres on and balancing already done. Sorted :D
I like to buy and fit my own tyres. I like to chip my one wheels rather than have someone else do it! :hmmm:
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Taipan wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:09 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:51 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:42 am Is balancing wheels a chore?
Well yeah, this is the main reason I've never bothered.

Give man wheel. Get wheel back with new tyres on and balancing already done. Sorted :D
I like to buy and fit my own tyres. I like to chip my one wheels rather than have someone else do it! :hmmm:
I borderline can't even be arsed taking the wheels off myself :D If I find somewhere that does ride in/out I'm using them.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:15 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:09 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:51 pm

Well yeah, this is the main reason I've never bothered.

Give man wheel. Get wheel back with new tyres on and balancing already done. Sorted :D
I like to buy and fit my own tyres. I like to chip my one wheels rather than have someone else do it! :hmmm:
I borderline can't even be arsed taking the wheels off myself :D If I find somewhere that does ride in/out I'm using them.
Used to use an outfit called Rubber Ranch. You didn't even need to ride in/out, he used to turn up and do the job in the company car park. :D (Had all the gear on board a big Transit style van and would do tyre fitting at track days etc. Unfortunately he moved down to Kent I think).
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:25 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:15 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:09 pm

I like to buy and fit my own tyres. I like to chip my one wheels rather than have someone else do it! :hmmm:
I borderline can't even be arsed taking the wheels off myself :D If I find somewhere that does ride in/out I'm using them.
Used to use an outfit called Rubber Ranch. You didn't even need to ride in/out, he used to turn up and do the job in the company car park. :D (Had all the gear on board a big Transit style van and would do tyre fitting at track days etc. Unfortunately he moved down to Kent I think).
I think he's somewhere West Sussex/Hampshire way now - he fitted my last set of tyres last year in a car-park in Farnborough iirc.
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KungFooBob wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:37 am Don't tyre fitters get annoyed off when they break the bead and stuff pisses out all over their nice tyre machine?
It doesn't piss out. First thing you do is deflate the tyre, then break the bead, then remove it. The powder just sits in the lowest part of the tyre.
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Taipan wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:09 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:51 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:42 am Is balancing wheels a chore?
Well yeah, this is the main reason I've never bothered.

Give man wheel. Get wheel back with new tyres on and balancing already done. Sorted :D
I like to buy and fit my own tyres. I like to chip my one wheels rather than have someone else do it! :hmmm:
For years I wrestled with tires on the garage floor, chasing the damn tire iron around wobbly style. A few years ago I got a discount offer on a stand that I bolted to a scrap bit of plywood (big round piece from a round house kit found in the basement of said round house). Goddam if it isn't much easier having the wheel secured firmly at waist height. It takes waaaaaaaaaaay less time and effort. All those years of wasted time and sweary words.
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Bwana wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:58 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:09 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:51 pm

Well yeah, this is the main reason I've never bothered.

Give man wheel. Get wheel back with new tyres on and balancing already done. Sorted :D
I like to buy and fit my own tyres. I like to chip my one wheels rather than have someone else do it! :hmmm:
For years I wrestled with tires on the garage floor, chasing the damn tire iron around wobbly style. A few years ago I got a discount offer on a stand that I bolted to a scrap bit of plywood (big round piece from a round house kit found in the basement of said round house). Goddam if it isn't much easier having the wheel secured firmly at waist height. It takes waaaaaaaaaaay less time and effort. All those years of wasted time and sweary words.
I used to kneel on the tyre to keep it in the well.
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I could still change a tyre on the GSXR in 2 or 3 minutes. Easy once you get the knack.

Not a bloody chance on dirt bike wheels. The walls are super stiff as they run about 10 PSI. Then there's the rim lock bolt to worry about. Did it once. Never again.
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I find dirt bike tyres easier than road bike ones.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:10 pm I find dirt bike tyres easier than road bike ones.
So does my local garage, and free fitting as well :obscene-birdiedoublered:
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Yorick wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:18 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:10 pm I find dirt bike tyres easier than road bike ones.
So does my local garage, and free fitting as well :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Not much use when you get a puncture miles from anywhere
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:06 pm
Yorick wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:18 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:10 pm I find dirt bike tyres easier than road bike ones.
So does my local garage, and free fitting as well :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Not much use when you get a puncture miles from anywhere
I've ridden home 15 miles with punctures. Each end. OK if go slow
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Bwana wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 3:58 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:09 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:51 pm

Well yeah, this is the main reason I've never bothered.

Give man wheel. Get wheel back with new tyres on and balancing already done. Sorted :D
I like to buy and fit my own tyres. I like to chip my one wheels rather than have someone else do it! :hmmm:
For years I wrestled with tires on the garage floor, chasing the damn tire iron around wobbly style. A few years ago I got a discount offer on a stand that I bolted to a scrap bit of plywood (big round piece from a round house kit found in the basement of said round house). Goddam if it isn't much easier having the wheel secured firmly at waist height. It takes waaaaaaaaaaay less time and effort. All those years of wasted time and sweary words.
Yeah, been there, done that. My Eureka moment was when I got a Sealey tyre changer that bolts to the floor, along with the correct tyre bar for use with ali rims. It even has a really good bead breaker built in. It's not as foolproof or easy as a hydraulic one, but it beats the living crap out of chasing a tyre around a floor... :D
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Yorick wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:24 pm I could still change a tyre on the GSXR in 2 or 3 minutes. Easy once you get the knack.

Not a bloody chance on dirt bike wheels. The walls are super stiff as they run about 10 PSI. Then there's the rim lock bolt to worry about. Did it once. Never again.
When I first started attempting tire changes I weighed about 100lbs on a good day. That was on an old XL250. Body weight comes in really handy. Front tyres were much easier than rear wheels.

After years of abuse on knees and feet - working on concrete floors, kneeling on the floor to wrestle large dogs, and being born with FLAT feet - kneeling to do a tyre change results in a great deal of swearing. Having the wheel nailed down securely on a proper stand makes a world of difference and means I won't be hobbling around sore for the next two days.