2022 champion, who, why?

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Re: 2022 champion, who, why?

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It’s such a fine line though, there are so many variables even lap on lap, the consistency you would have to have with inputs for it to react the same way every lap at the exact same point on the track, so I don’t think it’s as clear cut as “this is the line, so don’t go over it”………..

It’s like when Brooksy a few years ago when he won the BSB he says that in every corner he thought he was going to crash, he was pushing that hard that in his own words he wasn’t sure he’d make it out of the corner.
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wull wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:08 am It’s such a fine line though, there are so many variables even lap on lap, the consistency you would have to have with inputs for it to react the same way every lap at the exact same point on the track, so I don’t think it’s as clear cut as “this is the line, so don’t go over it”………..

It’s like when Brooksy a few years ago when he won the BSB he says that in every corner he thought he was going to crash, he was pushing that hard that in his own words he wasn’t sure he’d make it out of the corner.
Oh absolutely... i'm not even going to begin to try and imagine it. But being able to learn when to stop is obviously the difference between a champion and not. Look at O'Halloran last year for example, he should have romped it.... But a couple of crashes and he's suddenly not champion. Marquez has learned the lesson is expensive too as without his crashes he would likely still be the dominant force in GPs.
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Re: 2022 champion, who, why?

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weeksy wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:55 am
lostboy wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:20 am
Yorick wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:13 pm
He's still crashing...

And as he has always said, he only knows where the limits of the bike are and what it's going to do at the limit if he steps over it so that he can learn.
How many crashes does it take to find when to not go past that limit though ? That's the issue. Surely 'learning' implies that after a certain number of passing the limits, you stop just before them ?
Eight world titles suggests he knows when to not go past that limit and that the learning has been done. Was it the 19 season that he didn't have a result lower than second in races that he finished and only one DNF?

Every time he makes a change to the bike he's got to know where that limit is, hence why he's stepped off a few in practice.
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weeksy wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:55 am
lostboy wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:20 am
Yorick wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:13 pm
He's still crashing...

And as he has always said, he only knows where the limits of the bike are and what it's going to do at the limit if he steps over it so that he can learn.
How many crashes does it take to find when to not go past that limit though ? That's the issue. Surely 'learning' implies that after a certain number of passing the limits, you stop just before them ?
What I meant was that he's not just pottering about scared. He's still pushing as hard as before.
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Re: 2022 champion, who, why?

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weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:33 pm Motogp Marquez
Wsb Rea
BSB Sykes (assuming he gets the Bird Ducati)

So who've you got and why?
I'm still going with these 3.