I hope they've put the reverse switch somewhere a bit more accessible than on the LT. It was somewhere near my ankle which involved leaning out to one side and down. With all the luggage on board, that was interesting. (Did one trip to France with all the hiking gear on board, boots, rucsacs etc. 2-up we actually hit the loading limit ).Scootabout wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:18 pm That reverse 'gear' is key to managing the weight, I think. The main issue with the ST1300, for me, weight-wise was paddling or hauling it backwards, especially uphill (I soon leaned to look for cambers..) but also over even fairly slight bumps.
It's actually about the same weight as the ST1300, but should be more manageable with the reverse facility. If I had money to burn I'd be tempted.
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334kg wet weight? I'd have a hernia just looking at it.
And don't give me that trope about 'the weight disappears when you're on the move' - of course it fucking does...
It doesn't disappear when you're pushing it around though. Or when it's fallen over (heaven forbid).
And don't give me that trope about 'the weight disappears when you're on the move' - of course it fucking does...
It doesn't disappear when you're pushing it around though. Or when it's fallen over (heaven forbid).
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The FXFBS weighs in at over 300kg's, can't say I've ever noticed, never had it give me a moments thought.
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Horse wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:16 pm Had a trainee who'd bought an LT, had it delivered to his house. Then fell over when parked. Asked for help.
Plan was that I'd ride it to an open area, he'd folow in his car.
Bike was in the garage. Had a turning circle outside, gravel - which had been pushed into a small 'berm' outside the door. Oh, and the garage was opposite the house wall, so a 90° right turn was needed ... to go uphill and 90° left around the front of the house.
So, ideally for gravel you'd give it some beans and stand up to let it weave etc. But not with an up and over door immediately ahead.
If I say so myself, it must have looked impressive. One of those do or die, one attempt, events!
Coincidence... I had a trainee who'd bought a brand new ST1300, dealer had delivered it to his garage, where he dropped it trying to turn it round to face out. Course delayed two weeks whilst new parts were ordered. He didn't want to ride it out of his uphill gravel driveway to the tarmac, so I had to do that. No up and over door and just a 45 degree turn. I just had a feeling about the way the day was going to go, so parked it right at the end of his turning, where it exited onto a main road, and angled so all he had to do was get moving.
At the end of five hours, he had barely managed a turn tighter than left at a roundabout - the bike was clearly way beyond his ability level, so when we got back to his town I ended up parking my bike at the edge of the built-up area, then giving him a ride home on the ST before getting a lift back to my bike. I didn't like the ST13 at all - compared with the original, it was top-heavy.
I have had a couple of trainees with the 1600 - motors well, sound good, and whilst it flatters good riders it does look relatively easy to manage - unlike that ST13.
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Ah, now that's where they differed. Once this guy got his confidence back, he was fine.The Spin Doctor wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:47 am
At the end of five hours, he had barely managed a turn tighter than left at a roundabout - the bike was clearly way beyond his ability level
Did I mention his prosthetic leg?
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Ridiculous. Might as well have Bailey, or Bessacarr written on it. Bike that big just make me think, at what point do you say to yourself, fuck it, I might as well get a car!
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There are times when a bigger bike comes in useful. Like using a full-dress wing to bring two 'small' (but not light) bags of cement and a bag of compost home from B&Q. I didn't have car.
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I imagine some people have never gone for 2 weeks holiday on a bike....with female partner on the pillion too. Although mine got quite good at reducing the luggage.
(We did go to Germany to get some panniers fitted and went out pretty much with what we could get in our pockets ).
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I was married about 4 years or so before I did my car test and bought a wagon,up until that time we did all our shopping and carrying of stuff on a Suzuki GS1000. I couldn't be arsed with that now,but back then I thought nothing of it.
Many a time Mrs.Skub carried a guitar case on the back on the way to a gig. She periodically likes to remind me of this and other hardships she endured,that and her hanging on tight with one hand and using the other to stop the groceries flying out of the cardboard box.
I found this method suited best,as she had no free hands to punch.
Not until we stopped anyway.
Many a time Mrs.Skub carried a guitar case on the back on the way to a gig. She periodically likes to remind me of this and other hardships she endured,that and her hanging on tight with one hand and using the other to stop the groceries flying out of the cardboard box.
I found this method suited best,as she had no free hands to punch.
Not until we stopped anyway.
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The Bonnie used to have a side car and was sole family transport for 2 people and a dog at one point. Not sure what the dog thought of that.
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About 10 years ago Mrs Mango and I did a 2 week holiday in the South of France on the Falco using just OE Falco luggage plus Bagster tank bag.Count Steer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:17 pmI imagine some people have never gone for 2 weeks holiday on a bike....with female partner on the pillion too. Although mine got quite good at reducing the luggage.
(We did go to Germany to get some panniers fitted and went out pretty much with what we could get in our pockets ).
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I like it, a few years back borrowed a K1200LT for a two up day out in summer. I was hesitant but we did 200 miles that day to the coast and back and enjoyed every minute of it. On roads I knew we followed a group of sports bikes, mainly 600’s. Some of them dropping their knees down and we sat in comfort behind them with the pegs scraping every now and then. Eventually passing most of them and some on the straights. Still sits in my memory banks as one of the fastest rides I’ve ever done cross country and who knows what the other riders thought. The 1600 has to be more of the same
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More like lawless on most of the Beemers I owned.
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Two up on a 400-four... and we camped too.Count Steer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:17 pm
I imagine some people have never gone for 2 weeks holiday on a bike....with female partner on the pillion too. Although mine got quite good at reducing the luggage.
(We did go to Germany to get some panniers fitted and went out pretty much with what we could get in our pockets ).
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In my first year at Uni I had to move out of halls over the Easter break (they used them to host corporate training). I managed to transport all my stuff home on my Honda CB-1 400cc bike. Including an old fashioned tower PC and a CRT monitor
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In one trip?Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:50 pm In my first year at Uni I had to move out of halls over the Easter break (they used them to host corporate training). I managed to transport all my stuff home on my Honda CB-1 400cc bike. Including an old fashioned tower PC and a CRT monitor
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I think I'd like a go on one but I doubt I'd want to own one.
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I'd like a go on one, but worry that then I'd want to own one.demographic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:14 pm I think I'd like a go on one but I doubt I'd want to own one.
(Probably still prefer the K12GT for size and general useability though).
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