Boris - how much longer will he suvive?

[gremlin]

If the information being given out to the public was 'be afraid, be very afraid', did the guy inviting 100 people either not care, or knew something different?

Ditto the 30 - 40 who attended.

Civil servants are fuckin' 'ard bastards.

[Cousin Jack]

Civil servants are fuckin' 'ard bastards.

Well, fuckin' bastards anyway.

[slowsider]

Let's not get caught up with a distraction of letting nonces off, how about we just stick to PMs.
Blair gets knighted for his insane crusades but Boris gets done for having an after work pint, seems legit

Yeah they should definitely give Boris a free pass until they've rounded up all ex-leftie PMs. But then I'm not a rightie. Maybe they should dig up Thatcher and Churchill for war crimes?

You started with the noncing, by the way.

The nonces are in their sights now

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/ ... ting-house

[demographic]

So if he was at a party at No 10?

Isn't that the chancellors home nowadays? I thought that there was a swap a few years ago and the then PM ended up with the slightly larger flat at No 11?

So where was Richie Sunak when the party at the back of his was going on?

[Cousin Jack]

So where was Richie Sunak when the party at the back of his was going on?

Don't know where he was then, but he is keeping very still and quiet at the moment. Is he about to give Boris a push? Or is he waiting for all the shit to land before putting his head above the parapet? Liz is also very quiet too, probably for the same reasons.

[Horse]

Telegraph today:

" ... Schrodinhger's party defence ... may or may not have happened depending on Sue Grey's observation of it"

[Horse]

Maybe I haven't seen it all but Starmer went exceptionally easy on him in parliament.
He seemed to hold back on what were quite obvious responses.

Probably one of those 'less is more' situations. Boris is doing a fair job of burying himself. KS couldn't really make it worse, because ...

Boris ... yes or no answers

Not really in his vocabulary.

Personally I'd have suggested that if he couldn't even work out what he'd done wrong without waiting for an investigation to conclude then perhaps he should have a full time minder, or be put under police watch to make sure he doesn't step out of line going forward.

That was the gist of the DT article (front cover, read it on the bbc news website). Either he's a liar or an idiot. Yesterday he chose the idiot defence.

[Mussels]

Starmer has to be careful what he says as he won't want the witch hunt to get carried away.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14826418/ ... gathering/

[DefTrap]

I think it's entirely possible that the meeja will find similar incidents of the Labour leadership doing similar shenanigans.

Not this example with KS having a beer in April/May 2021 though - this is rather more desperate when we're talking about a year later, with a vastly different landscape and the vaccines being administered and Boris starting to crow about Freedom Day.

[Beancounter]

.... or lie to parliament - either way he's doomed.

Hasn't Johnson lied repeatedly to Parliament and got away with it?

[Cousin Jack]

.... or lie to parliament - either way he's doomed.

Hasn't Johnson lied repeatedly to Parliament and got away with it?

Of course he has, but he hasn't had it proved beyond reasonable doubt. Yet!

[Horse]

That was the gist of the DT article (front cover, read it on the bbc news website). Either he's a liar or an idiot. Yesterday he chose the idiot defence.

That's the bit I don't like, if he held his hands up and said he was terribly sorry then I could live with it, but to continue trying to bullshit his way out of it shows a general contempt towards the people that put him in power.

He needed sacking on the spot for that performance in parliament.

According to R4 this morning, and an unnamed Conservative MP, immediately after PQs he went jnto the 'tea room' to talk to MPs. And was heard to say "I'm innocent, just taking the blame for others".

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[Pirahna]

He's properly fucked now. Two parties held at Number 10 on the eve of Phil The Greeks funeral. Throw in a picture of the Queen sitting all be herself at Westminster Abbey during the service and it doesn't look good.

[Mr. Dazzle]

.... or lie to parliament - either way he's doomed.

Hasn't Johnson lied repeatedly to Parliament and got away with it?

Of course he has, but he hasn't had it proved beyond reasonable doubt. Yet!

He did worse than that, he mislead the Queen!

That was all before COVID though and doesn't count.

[Horse]

He's properly fucked now. Two parties held at Number 10 on the eve of Phil The Greeks funeral.

And the guy whose leaving party was involved (and has owned up to it) is now ....

Deputy editor-in-chief of the Sun newspaper. Are they robustly defending Mr Johnson?

[slowsider]

I'm not sure, I'm not calling it yet.
He might have been told - "Just hang in there for another week until we've found something on Starmer for you to go back at him in parliament".

Remember Margaret Farrier calling out Dominic Cummings - and then shortly afterwards got on a train with covid.
If you're going to throw massive stones like this then you better hope that you're squeaky clean.

The question is whether Boris has enough friends to go looking for something on Starmer.

It's not Boris or Starmer, its Boris or one of the Tory contenders.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Ahh....Brexit, how I miss thee.

*stares wistfully into the distance*

[Horse]

Boris needs to defend against a Labour call for him to resign

Yes, he always does what they suggest

he also needs to fend off the backstabbers in his party

Backstabbers? Possibly also MPs concerned about voter backlash? And local elections in May, so canvassing will start soon. Might be a few doorstep challenges about it, don't you think?

[slowsider]

It's not Boris or Starmer, its Boris or one of the Tory contenders.

Well, there are two things going on, Boris needs to defend against a Labour call for him to resign, and he also needs to fend off the backstabbers in his party (or more accurately the people bankrolling the backstabbers in his party).

Dishing dirt on Starmer would result in either both of them having to resign, or more likely it netting off and they go back to arguing about Brexit.

Theres a, what, nearly 80 seat majority? You do the maths.