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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:52 pm
Taipan wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:15 pm Cheers Mate. List is down to XTX and MT07, but I've started looking at that bike Le Fromage Grand has as well and I confess to looking at the old photos of my Harley and remembering what a great time I had on that...
Too fast for you :D

In seriousness, I don't think you'd like it, it's very much an inline 4 750, very linear power and likes to be screamed, it's also quite a heavy bike (214KG wet), you don't notice the weight riding it, but I do wheeling it out of the garage. I honestly think an MT07 or MT09 would suit you better.
Yes, it probably wouldn't suit me in many ways, but it's a nice looking bike.

The MT09 crops up in searches and is interesting. I like the look of it, especially with USD forks etc, but it really does have more (too much) power than I'll ever need. So does the MT07 come to that! :oops: :D
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If you like the MT09 may as well go for the MT10.

You already know you want to. 8-)
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:57 pm What about one of the 300cc A1 bikes that all the manufacturers sell these days.

I reckon the CB300R looks ace.

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143kg and a mighty 31bhp, I reckon it would still be a laugh.
A Morti had/has a brand new one of those. I ain't seen him about for ages though.

My Mum has a brand new CB500R (well it was brand new when she bought it a few years ago). The first time I moved it out of the way in their garage I nearly threw it up the wall....it was way lighter than my push was anticipating :lol:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:27 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:57 pm What about one of the 300cc A1 bikes that all the manufacturers sell these days.

I reckon the CB300R looks ace.

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143kg and a mighty 31bhp, I reckon it would still be a laugh.
A Morti had/has a brand new one of those. I ain't seen him about for ages though.

My Mum has a brand new CB500R (well it was brand new when she bought it a few years ago). The first time I moved it out of the way in their garage I nearly threw it up the wall....it was way lighter than my push was anticipating :lol:
A colleague had a CB500X as a loaner and absolutely loved it. He did say he was going to get one, but he left and I haven't seen him since? They aren't on my radar though. Not really sure why tbh?
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CB500X:

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I think Couchy had one for a while, there's loads of rally raid upgrades you can do to them. I had the normal street version as a loner once and it was surprisingly good fun. Just about managed to wring the ton out of it too :)

I'd say its an ideal alternative. It might look a little bit like the old NC, but only avout half the weight
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G.P wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:54 pm CB500X:

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I think Couchy had one for a while, there's loads of rally raid upgrades you can do to them. I had the normal street version as a loner once and it was surprisingly good fun. Just about managed to wring the ton out of it too :)

I'd say its an ideal alternative. It might look a little bit like the old NC, but only avout half the weight
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Yorick wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:58 pm
199 kilos
Wow, that must be fully fuelled. The loaner I had was the f version without the fairing etc which must have been about 10kgs lighter - felt like it was a sub 160kg bike though.
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Yeah I'm surprised by that figure too, as above I was also surprised by the low weight the first time I handled my Mums CB500.

IBF they're also quite slim and the bars are high up and wide, so it's way easier to push around than a similar weight IL4 sports bike.
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G.P wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:33 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:58 pm
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Wow, that must be fully fuelled. The loaner I had was the f version without the fairing etc which must have been about 10kgs lighter - felt like it was a sub 160kg bike though.
My GSXR fully laden is only 4 kgs more
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Surely fully laden is with a Yorick on it too though ;)
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G.P wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:48 pm Surely fully laden is with a Yorick on it too though ;)
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G.P wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:48 pm Surely fully laden is with a Yorick on it too though ;)
And full of cold beer.
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Lutin wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:54 pm
Taipan wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:58 pmI checked out the weight difference between the NCX and the MT07. Turns out its about 7 stone in old money! :shock: That is going to be undeniably noticeable when wheeling it about...
So, the Honda is hauling 229kg about with 54bhp and the Yamaha is hauling 184kg about with 72bhp.

Wonder which is quicker of the line? :wtf:
Depends on the gearing, doesn't it?

You can get plenty of acceleration out of 30 hp... just think RD250LC. With low enough gearing, acceleration is limited by wheelies. If you've seen the 60-odd hp 400s trying to get off the line at the TT, you'll see the downside of a high first gear.

And one of the features of the NC range is a VERY low first gear. Mind you, with the weight you'll struggle to get it to wheelie. but it's no slouch.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:37 pm I'll take the top one
Looking through the pictures, does this look like bits of tyre all over the rear shock and mudguard?

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Akra sounds lovely!

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Taipan wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:57 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:37 pm I'll take the top one
Looking through the pictures, does this look like bits of tyre all over the rear shock and mudguard?

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I'd say that was masses of chain oil and then dirt rather than tyre? Looking at the rear wheel as well.

Depends if it's the same bike as in the burn out video though??
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Nordboy wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:13 am I'd say that was masses of chain oil and then dirt rather than tyre? Looking at the rear wheel as well.

Depends if it's the same bike as in the burn out video though??
Yes, it's the same bike. Looking at his insta a/c he's not that bad, just learning really. It's not really put me off now I know what stage he's at, iyswim? Just a young bloke enjoying his pride and joy, same as I was back then...
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Taipan wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 am
Nordboy wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:13 am I'd say that was masses of chain oil and then dirt rather than tyre? Looking at the rear wheel as well.

Depends if it's the same bike as in the burn out video though??
Yes, it's the same bike. Looking at his insta a/c he's not that bad, just learning really. It's not really put me off now I know what stage he's at, iyswim? Just a young bloke enjoying his pride and joy, same as I was back then...
Oh! I half put that as a tongue in cheek comment, didn't think it was the same bike. Well for me, If that was my 'pride and joy', I wouldn't be abusing it like that? Wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick.
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Nordboy wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:34 am
Taipan wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 am
Nordboy wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:13 am I'd say that was masses of chain oil and then dirt rather than tyre? Looking at the rear wheel as well.

Depends if it's the same bike as in the burn out video though??
Yes, it's the same bike. Looking at his insta a/c he's not that bad, just learning really. It's not really put me off now I know what stage he's at, iyswim? Just a young bloke enjoying his pride and joy, same as I was back then...
Oh! I half put that as a tongue in cheek comment, didn't think it was the same bike. Well for me, If that was my 'pride and joy', I wouldn't be abusing it like that? Wouldn't touch it with a shitty stick.
Yeah, I hear you. I'm now thinking of ham fisted wheelie attempts...