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Leaking brake caliper

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my last outing on the bike was at Bike Park Wales. At the end of the day the brakes felt a little spongy, nothing too bad but I don't like a lot of lever travel so it's something I needed to fix.

Life got in the way so I only had a chance to look at the brakes last Thursday evening. To my surprise, my front caliper was leaking fluid from the top piston:

https://youtu.be/lMfwwYK32bU

Got the caliper off the bike and using the compressor was able to get the top piston out which as you can see had broken into several pieces:
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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Plastic pistons? :wtf:
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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Rockburner wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:10 pm Plastic pistons? :wtf:
Yup. I’m stumped on why it broke. Also, no seals, just calliper body and piston.

£50 for a new caliper.
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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Rockburner wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:10 pm Plastic pistons? :wtf:
Ceramic I believe. They are known to crack and split if they aren't pushed back into the caliper square and jam, which is really quite easy to do.

Have you found a replacement yet?

I've got an old 2 pot xt caliper in the shed if that's any good for you as a temp fix.
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Shimanos leak at the calipers. It's not uncommon
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TBH at £50 for a complete caliper I wouldn't worry about it.
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Taff wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:25 pm
Rockburner wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:10 pm Plastic pistons? :wtf:
Ceramic I believe. They are known to crack and split if they aren't pushed back into the caliper square and jam, which is really quite easy to do.

Have you found a replacement yet?

I've got an old 2 pot xt caliper in the shed if that's any good for you as a temp fix.
Thanks Taff but I’ve got a new caliper on order, should be here by the weekend.
weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:42 pm Shimanos leak at the calipers. It's not uncommon
Genuinely never heard that before. Must say, it’s not a comforting thought that it’s not uncommon.
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:43 pm TBH at £50 for a complete caliper I wouldn't worry about it.
Agreed, stacking the bike into a tree would be a lot more expensive.
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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Beancounter wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:04 pm
Taff wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:25 pm
Rockburner wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:10 pm Plastic pistons? :wtf:
Ceramic I believe. They are known to crack and split if they aren't pushed back into the caliper square and jam, which is really quite easy to do.

Have you found a replacement yet?

I've got an old 2 pot xt caliper in the shed if that's any good for you as a temp fix.
Thanks Taff but I’ve got a new caliper on order, should be here by the weekend.
weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:42 pm Shimanos leak at the calipers. It's not uncommon
Genuinely never heard that before. Must say, it’s not a comforting thought that it’s not uncommon.
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:43 pm TBH at £50 for a complete caliper I wouldn't worry about it.
Agreed, stacking the bike into a tree would be a lot more expensive.
Ping your start post up on STW and see the reaction :D you'll be shocked how many complain about leaky calipers. :banana-wrench:
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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weeksy wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:18 am
Beancounter wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:04 pm
Taff wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:25 pm

Ceramic I believe. They are known to crack and split if they aren't pushed back into the caliper square and jam, which is really quite easy to do.

Have you found a replacement yet?

I've got an old 2 pot xt caliper in the shed if that's any good for you as a temp fix.
Thanks Taff but I’ve got a new caliper on order, should be here by the weekend.
weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:42 pm Shimanos leak at the calipers. It's not uncommon
Genuinely never heard that before. Must say, it’s not a comforting thought that it’s not uncommon.
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:43 pm TBH at £50 for a complete caliper I wouldn't worry about it.
Agreed, stacking the bike into a tree would be a lot more expensive.
Ping your start post up on STW and see the reaction :D you'll be shocked how many complain about leaky calipers. :banana-wrench:
:shock: Kinda regretting buying another Shimano caliper - I thought mine were leaking because of the cracked piston.
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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thing is... there's MILLIONS of Shimano calipers out there in the world... and 'some' have issues... but it's handfuls, not 50%...

I wouldn't worry.
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weeksy wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:17 am thing is... there's MILLIONS of Shimano calipers out there in the world... and 'some' have issues... but it's handfuls, not 50%...

I wouldn't worry.
Exactly this, the number of reported failure is going to be tiny compared to the numbers out there in the wild.

From what I can tell, all makes of MTB brake calipers have their weaknesses whether that's in reliability, power, feel, fade, pad rub etc.
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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Buy Hope - you know it makes sense
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Re: Leaking brake caliper

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Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:04 pm Buy Hope - you know it makes sense
If only I could justify them. :(