Just one-fifth of new Covid hospital patients are true cases.
Just one fifth of the weekly rise in Covid inpatients was caused by people admitted to hospital because of the virus, figures suggest.
The most up-to-date NHS data show that on December 21, there were 6,245 beds occupied by coronavirus patients in English hospitals - an increase of 259 from the previous week.
But within that increase, just 45 patients were admitted because of the virus, with the remaining 214 in hospital for other conditions but having also tested positive - so called “incidental Covid” admissions.
If the same applies in Scotland and Wales (as appears to be the case) then Nicola Sturgeon's Scottish and Mark Drakeford's Welsh lockdowns are unnecessary.
The Scottish and Welsh New Year lockdowns look like political manoeuvres against the hated BoJo administration in No.10, but which look likely to backfire.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
Just one-fifth of new Covid hospital patients are true cases.
Just one fifth of the weekly rise in Covid inpatients was caused by people admitted to hospital because of the virus, figures suggest.
The most up-to-date NHS data show that on December 21, there were 6,245 beds occupied by coronavirus patients in English hospitals - an increase of 259 from the previous week.
But within that increase, just 45 patients were admitted because of the virus, with the remaining 214 in hospital for other conditions but having also tested positive - so called “incidental Covid” admissions.
If the same applies in Scotland and Wales (as appears to be the case) then Nicola Sturgeon's Scottish and Mark Drakeford's Welsh lockdowns are unnecessary.
The Scottish and Welsh New Year lockdowns look like political manoeuvres against the hated BoJo administration in No.10, but which look likely to backfire.
Hold on, Boris may have been right?
I wrote Boris because I do laugh at the fact people say Boris this, Boris that, like he's the dictator who makes all these decisions himself and people live or die based upon like a chess game from an 80s Greek mythology movie.
Just one fifth of the weekly rise in Covid inpatients was caused by people admitted to hospital because of the virus, figures suggest.
But within that increase, just 45 patients were admitted because of the virus, with the remaining 214 in hospital for other conditions but having also tested positive - so called “incidental Covid” admissions.
How does that compare with figures for the previous variants (remember the within 28 days of a positive test, died of or with covid, etc.)? It's not completely meaningless without context, but ...
I wrote Boris because I do laugh at the fact people say Boris this, Boris that, like he's the dictator who makes all these decisions himself and people live or die based upon like a chess game from an 80s Greek mythology movie.
I'm sure some of them "run the country" by committee, you could say that's because they're incapable of making a decision if you were being mean. Or that they're making effective use of Cabinet.
Equally other PMs completely ignore cabinet and bump them back down to oblivion if they don't play ball. Nobody wants oblivion.
So I think the answer is, it depends. Thatcher was very single minded for example, you could say she's the closest to a dictator (in the context of an elected MP and Party leader) in recent memory.
Boris isn't up there with Thatcher, he may think he is. He would have made an excellent scout leader.
Skub wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:06 pm
The folk making the LFT kits (China) must be making a killing.
It's definitely redistributed some money in all kinds of ways, the money is still moving but it's going in different directions than it used to.
For some it's the final kick in the balls after a steady good hiding over the last 18 months, we've got an extended family member with a pub and he's about washed-up now.
In many ways this is deja vu, it's like Q2 2020 with cases for us through the roof but 90% of them are asymptomatic, I've got dozens off work with positive tests but they're telling me they feel fine. This is how it was at first in 2020, then as it worked it's way through people started getting sick and dying. If it goes full circle again then it'll be the final hammer blow for many businesses on the edge.
The old Chinese curse of 'may you live in interesting times',looks set to be too true for many.
Asian Boss wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:23 pm
I'll tell you what else you can all forget about: all that testing bollocks. Alright?
You do confuse me as a poster.
I'm guessing it was a reference to test kit shortages which give a false sense of security.
Less testing means less people testing positive so it looks better as long as people don't look too hard at the details.
Just today the news has mentioned that the pharmacists have said theres a severe shortage of testing capability (lateral flow) but there's been a grumble going on in some better news outlets for a couple of weeks about this issue.
Asian Boss wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:23 pm
I'll tell you what else you can all forget about: all that testing bollocks. Alright?
You do confuse me as a poster.
I'm guessing it was a reference to test kit shortages which give a false sense of security.
Less testing means less people testing positive so it looks better as long as people don't look too hard at the details.
Just today the news has mentioned that the pharmacists have said theres a severe shortage of testing capability (lateral flow) but there's been a grumble going on in some better news outlets for a couple of weeks about this issue.
It was more a general statement than specific to that message.
