irie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:52 pm
Seems almost certain that Lord Frost's resignation from the govt will be the kiss of death for Johnson, with many more to follow. Asked a pal when he thought Johnson would go and he said January, and I said March. Think my pal could be on the money ...
Interesting days for sure.
But what will it actually change?
Getting rid of him doesn't mean a change of policy, a change of plan etc?
irie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:52 pm
Seems almost certain that Lord Frost's resignation from the govt will be the kiss of death for Johnson, with many more to follow. Asked a pal when he thought Johnson would go and he said January, and I said March. Think my pal could be on the money ...
Interesting days for sure.
But what will it actually change?
Getting rid of him doesn't mean a change of policy, a change of plan etc?
Boris is too left wing for many Tory MPs so if he goes we can expect a harder line with fewer covid restrictions and no more hand outs.
What I don't like is MPs wanting to cancel Chris Whitty because he's too negative. All the people calling for Boris to go may not like what he is replaced with.
irie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:52 pm
Seems almost certain that Lord Frost's resignation from the govt will be the kiss of death for Johnson, with many more to follow. Asked a pal when he thought Johnson would go and he said January, and I said March. Think my pal could be on the money ...
Interesting days for sure.
But what will it actually change?
Getting rid of him doesn't mean a change of policy, a change of plan etc?
Boris is too left wing for many Tory MPs so if he goes we can expect a harder line with fewer covid restrictions and no more hand outs.
What I don't like is MPs wanting to cancel Chris Whitty because he's too negative. All the people calling for Boris to go may not like what he is replaced with.
Boris is too left wing?
Serious? I will accept is is chaotic - bordering on slight anarchic - but he has no concept of left wing. Just popular rhetoric ..
Boris is left wing, look at what he's actually done, put the country under house arrest, destroyed small businesses and paid people up to £30K not go to work.
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:36 pm
Boris is left wing, look at what he's actually done, put the country under house arrest, destroyed small businesses and paid people up to £30K not go to work.
However, he pays his mates, and his mate's mates far more for doing nothing ... TBH, I think he has leant from Putin
irie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:52 pm
Seems almost certain that Lord Frost's resignation from the govt will be the kiss of death for Johnson, with many more to follow. Asked a pal when he thought Johnson would go and he said January, and I said March. Think my pal could be on the money ...
Interesting days for sure.
But what will it actually change?
Getting rid of him doesn't mean a change of policy, a change of plan etc?
Seems to me that other than 'getting Brexit done' Johnson's administration has been notably chaotic.
Hopefully it will signal the end of off the cuff government and replacement by consistent policies.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
Lord Frost jacked?
Thank fuck for that, never seen a minister so bloody feckless.
What negotiation has he done well in? He's made every negotiation worse by entering into them.
I honestly believe if he'd not said anything every single negotiation would have gone better.
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:36 pm
Boris is left wing, look at what he's actually done, put the country under house arrest, destroyed small businesses and paid people up to £30K not go to work.
However, he pays his mates, and his mate's mates far more for doing nothing ... TBH, I think he has leant from Putin
Sounds like every left wing politician or right wing for that matter, they're all the same.
But you probably need to define what's left wing and what's right wing
wheelnut wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:06 am
The problem is that I’m not sure he has any clear policies/goals of his own. He’s too eager to get blown around, normally by the winds of populism.
Changes with the wind. The first few times you can dress that up as 'finger on the pulse' but ultimately it means you don't really need to plan anything and are just seeking approval.
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:36 pm
Boris is left wing, look at what he's actually done, put the country under house arrest, destroyed small businesses and paid people up to £30K not go to work.
However, he pays his mates, and his mate's mates far more for doing nothing ... TBH, I think he has leant from Putin
Sounds like every left wing politician or right wing for that matter, they're all the same.
But you probably need to define what's left wing and what's right wing
Oh please Sir, me Sir!
Anyone to the left of where one happens to align is left wing. Anyone to the right of where one happens to align is right wing.
Sorry for the rocket science.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
Following Lord Frost's resignation Liz Truss is taking responsibility for negotiations with the EU over the NI Protocol. Wouldn't surprise me if she's successful because the EU might see her as a better longer term prospect as PM than Boris "Peppa Pig" Johnson.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
irie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:13 pm
Looks like Johnson is now finished, wonder who'll replace him? Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss (my choice), or another? Please not that slimeball Gove.
You could be right, but I wouldn’t put money on it. He’s ridden out worse.
He might be so fed up by now he's ready to throw the towel in and go back to earning more money doing less work. He did what he set out to do and now covid is tailing off, unless he's hoping for a war to get a state funeral then everything from now is likely to be a bit duller.
