Stealth Omicron

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Noggin wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:17 pm I'm gonna ask a stupid question or three (and then shut the computer and go to bed!!! Seriously pissed off, upset, angry, scared etc etc, so will read the answers tomorrow after work!!! LOL)

Scare? Just stop reading pish like this lot are on about here. Only a very low percentage work in the NHS anyway and the rest are just regurgitating crap from there preferred news source. Just get on with your day the best you can within your local rules. Right now the only thing that worries me is will Nicola with the cock shut us down after new year and our meal in Edinburgh with my sister and BIL will be postponed.
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That ^

Crack on with life. One day you'll be dead. :thumbup:
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gremlin wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:43 pm That ^

Crack on with life. One day you'll be dead. :thumbup:
I think Noggin's fears may have more to do with her new job vapourising as the uk ski travellers don't fly.
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Noggin wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:17 pm<snip>

How many deaths were due to flu? (Hospital or not)

What is the difference now between deaths from covid/flu and the old figures of deaths from 'just' flu?
The death rate in 2020 was the highest since 2003 is one way of looking at it. The death rate in 2020 was lower than any year in the 20th century or earlier is another way of looking at it. How scared do you want to be? How scary do you want to be?

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... ables/2020
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I think inevitably we've been slightly anaesthetised to the whole thing. Rules made for our own safety are flouted daily and the vast majority just carry in as normal. 'The science' feels increasingly iffy and irrelevant when you're triple jabbed. We're hardly soldiers going to war but most of us are really blasé now about masses of deaths. Even the odd way we need to work people have largely stopped moaning about.

This is all so normal now that it's just bloody inconvenient. I'm far more miffed about losing quids to Ryanair and missing Christmas with family, than I just was about wandering through a crowded supermarche of potential Omicron spreaders.
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Horse wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:52 pm
gremlin wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:43 pm That ^

Crack on with life. One day you'll be dead. :thumbup:
I think Noggin's fears may have more to do with her new job vapourising as the uk ski travellers don't fly.
Exactly. I've done everything I've been supposed to do and had Covid (in an exceptionally mild form) twice. I'm not scared of the virus now, I'm scared for my job, my friends businesses and to be honest, the lifestyle here. I'm scared for various friends that are mentally right on the edge with these latest measures (risking complete loss of their business).


The trouble is that between Covid and the two B's, most people I know here are just seriously fed up and BORED with it all. We've stayed home. We've shut our businesses. We've been vaccinated. And boosted. And still our livelihoods are at risk.

At what point is it acceptable to go back to a 'relatively' normal life?


And yes, I still wear a mask where I should, I disinfect the surfaces in the minibus that I can between passenger groups (how do you disinfect cloth) and I haven't been to any of the Apres bars in case I catch it with no symptoms and become a carrier/sharer. But still I might lose my 'new' job. Which means I might lose my home.

So yes. Scared and seriously fed up!
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The Netherlands have gone into lockdown again and London has declared a major incident over hospital numbers. So far I haven't been bothered about people not getting vaccinations but I'm getting fucked off with anti-vaxxers protesting against restrictions whilst being the main cause of them.
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Mussels wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:32 pm The Netherlands have gone into lockdown again and London has declared a major incident over hospital numbers. So far I haven't been bothered about people not getting vaccinations but I'm getting fucked off with anti-vaxxers protesting against restrictions whilst being the main cause of them.
Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Idiots
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Mussels wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:32 pm The Netherlands have gone into lockdown again and London has declared a major incident over hospital numbers. So far I haven't been bothered about people not getting vaccinations but I'm getting fucked off with anti-vaxxers protesting against restrictions whilst being the main cause of them.
Yeah, me too. I wouldn't shed a tear if an anti-vaxxer gets Covid and dies. Hopefully quickly at minimum cost.
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Mussels wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:32 pm The Netherlands have gone into lockdown again and London has declared a major incident over hospital numbers. So far I haven't been bothered about people not getting vaccinations but I'm getting fucked off with anti-vaxxers protesting against restrictions whilst being the main cause of them.
Yep, vast majority of people in hospital are unvaxxed (according to the BBC).
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My G/F's sister is a nurse in A&E. She says the vast majority of those in hospital with Covid are not vaccinated.

She says about 1/3rd of them are pregnant women who were advised not to have the vaccine.
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That must be a really difficult choice for pregnant women. Risk from covid vs risk to unborn child.
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irie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:01 pm
Mussels wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:32 pm I haven't been bothered about people not getting vaccinations but I'm getting fucked off with anti-vaxxers protesting against restrictions whilst being the main cause of them.
Yeah, me too. I wouldn't shed a tear if an anti-vaxxer gets Covid and dies. Hopefully quickly at minimum cost.
Sadiq Khan said Omicron is now the "dominant variant" in London and was having an impact on staff absences in the emergency services across the city.

"What we can't afford to see is even more of our crucial key workers going off sick because they have this virus."


I wonder whether all those staff are unvaccinated too ... ?
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I'm inclined to think anti vaxxers are a bit mad, but I personally know a family with only the daughter vaccinated and when they all caught Covid the unjabbed members actually recovered faster than the daughter. :crazy:

In other news, I had my booster today, no queue, very slick operation, in and out inside 20 minutes.

Big antivax protest in Belfast, heard a trader from inside the market in the City Hall grounds came out shouting at the protesters and got slapped.
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Am willing to bet that the next lockdown will primarily be because public services such as NHS, Fire, Police will have been decimated by Omicron.
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Are they ill with Covid, or just testing +ve?

If the latter, there is an easy fix.
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As I was typing about the London incident I was wondering if it was just a political move by the labour mayor trying to stir things up.
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Mussels wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:09 pm As I was typing about the London incident I was wondering if it was just a political move by the labour mayor trying to stir things up.
A politician telling lies? Whatever next?
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Mussels wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:09 pm As I was typing about the London incident I was wondering if it was just a political move by the labour mayor trying to stir things up.

I thought the same, he's looking for govt funding for the underground.
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irie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:30 pmhe's looking for govt funding for the underground.
Again. TfL pretty much went bankrupt months ago and were bailed out.
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