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weeksy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:35 pm
irie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:24 pm
Sky News wrote:The UK Health Security Agency believes the Omicron variant is causing around 200,000 new infections per day.
My London based step son says that Omicron is rampant, everyone's getting it, but it's pretty much like a 'flu epidemic.

Just loving the latest measures that will do exactly the sum total of fuck all to slow the spread of this, as it increasingly seems to be, endemic variant.
What measures would you implement if you were in charge?
Nothing obligatory because nothing will make any significant difference to the spread of this variant. But try to persuade people to get vaccinated/have boosters to minimise the damage to their health when they do contract it.
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weeksy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:35 pm
irie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:24 pm
Sky News wrote:The UK Health Security Agency believes the Omicron variant is causing around 200,000 new infections per day.
My London based step son says that Omicron is rampant, everyone's getting it, but it's pretty much like a 'flu epidemic.

Just loving the latest measures that will do exactly the sum total of fuck all to slow the spread of this, as it increasingly seems to be, endemic variant.
What measures would you implement if you were in charge?
Full lockdown when the weather is nice, motorcyclists exempt from this because they're wearing protective clothing and social distancing out in the fresh air, also hot women (or men) available to cater for their perverted whims.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:18 pm .... also hot women (or men) available to cater for their perverted whims.
You're not fussy then?
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Skub wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:39 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:18 pm .... also hot women (or men) available to cater for their perverted whims.
You're not fussy then?
You have to cater for Noggin, I just like real women, the ones that have curves and wear leather, no skinny, whiney bitches for me.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:42 pm I just like real women, the ones that have curves and wear leather, no skinny, whiney bitches for me.
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irie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:24 pm
Sky News wrote:The UK Health Security Agency believes the Omicron variant is causing around 200,000 new infections per day.
My London based step son says that Omicron is rampant, everyone's getting it, but it's pretty much like a 'flu epidemic.
You don’t get tested positive and end up on a vent the next day.

One thing looks certain and that is, after having quite a mild delta experience, London are leading the charge again.

That probably tells us that the natural immunity (and the vaccine immunity) built up from previous variants isn’t working too well against omicron, at least in terms of infection prevention.

The next 3 weeks may be interesting in London :(
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irie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:11 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:35 pm
irie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:24 pm

My London based step son says that Omicron is rampant, everyone's getting it, but it's pretty much like a 'flu epidemic.

Just loving the latest measures that will do exactly the sum total of fuck all to slow the spread of this, as it increasingly seems to be, endemic variant.
What measures would you implement if you were in charge?
Nothing obligatory because nothing will make any significant difference to the spread of this variant. But try to persuade people to get vaccinated/have boosters to minimise the damage to their health when they do contract it.
Sorry to quote myself (can't edit original post). Forgot to say that assuming that trials are successful with no or minor side effects, we should be looking at mass distribution of therapeutics such as Paxlovid and Xevudy for self medication.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pfi ... s-12495604
Pfizer has said its experimental COVID-19 pill appears to be effective against the Omicron variant.

The company said on Tuesday that final analysis of its 2,250-person study confirmed the pill, called Paxlovid, has promising early results against coronavirus.

The drug reduced combined hospitalisations and deaths by about 89% among high-risk adults when taken shortly after initial COVID-19 symptoms, Pfizer previously said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/ ... st-omicron
UK approves COVID-19 drug that appears effective against Omicron

Green light from medicines regulator comes as pharmaceutical giant says lab results show ‘activity against key mutations of Omicron’.
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irie wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:47 am
irie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:11 pm But try to persuade people to get vaccinated/have boosters to minimise the damage to their health when they do contract it.
Sorry to quote myself (can't edit original post). Forgot to say that assuming that trials are successful with no or minor side effects, we should be looking at mass distribution of therapeutics such as Paxlovid and Xevudy for self medication.
A vaccine refuser I know (who has had covid once already) is also keen on homeopathy. Somehow, I can't see that she will be keen on an alternative Pfizer product!
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Horse wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:11 am
irie wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:47 am
irie wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:11 pm But try to persuade people to get vaccinated/have boosters to minimise the damage to their health when they do contract it.
Sorry to quote myself (can't edit original post). Forgot to say that assuming that trials are successful with no or minor side effects, we should be looking at mass distribution of therapeutics such as Paxlovid and Xevudy for self medication.
A vaccine refuser I know (who has had covid once already) is also keen on homeopathy. Somehow, I can't see that she will be keen on an alternative Pfizer product!
If she dissolves the Pfizer pill and dilutes it a million times and takes one millionth of it in a pint of water she'll be fine.
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Why is everybody panicking over all these new cases overwhelming the NHS?

Can't they stick covid cases in the Nightingale facilities?
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Yambo wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:28 am Can't they stick covid cases in the Nightingale facilities?
with what medical staff ?
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Yambo wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:28 am Why is everybody panicking over all these new cases overwhelming the NHS?

Can't they stick covid cases in the Nightingale facilities?
Only those that haven't been decommissioned or repurposed as mass vaccination centres or diagnostic centres. And have sufficient staff.

So that's 'none of them'?
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This booster jab there pushing everyone to have, is it only for the 2 jabbers or can the non vax mongs have it as their first jab. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Dodgy knees wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:36 am This booster jab there pushing everyone to have, is it only for the 2 jabbers or can the non vax mongs have it as their first jab. 🤷🏻‍♂️
:D

I really hope there's a sensible answer to that, including redefining 'booster' ;)
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My daughter was admitted to hospital again this week ( she’s out now).

Monday was very busy.
Tuesday the average wait for urgent treatment was 3 hours.
Yesterday it was 9 hours.

People quote literally queuing around the hospital to get in to A&E. The nurse looking after my daughter was on her 5th 12.5 hour shift in a row ( which breaks all sorts of laws but they are desperate). Many of us do long shifts, but how many of us have to run IVs and deal with life-threatening cases around the clock ( that’s what they are now, only critical people admitted).

When we left last night it was like the zombie apocalypse with many dozens still queuing around the block in the cold.

It might not be as damaging as delta ( that’s the theory?!) but it’s impact is overwhelming in other ways
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That looks like the end of the French ski season for UK citizens, and financial disaster for many French ski resorts which rely on UK skiers.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-brit ... s-12497105
British tourists are to be banned from France amid concern over the "extremely rapid" rise in Omicron COVID cases in the UK.

From Saturday morning, France is banning travel to and from the UK without "compelling reasons".

Those reasons do not include travel for tourism and business, Paris said.

UK Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said hauliers will not be affected.

"To confirm, I have liaised with my French counterpart, and hauliers will remain exempt," he tweeted.

French nationals and their spouses are also unaffected by the new rules.
Wouldn't be surprised to see a EU wide ban in the near future. How they think this will control the spread of Omicron is anyone's guess.
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Dodgy knees wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:36 am This booster jab there pushing everyone to have, is it only for the 2 jabbers or can the non vax mongs have it as their first jab. 🤷🏻‍♂️
It's the same jab. I took my son to have his first on Saturday and one of their spare doses became my booster.
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irie wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:12 am That looks like the end of the French ski season for UK citizens, and financial disaster for many French ski resorts which rely on UK skiers.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-brit ... s-12497105
British tourists are to be banned from France amid concern over the "extremely rapid" rise in Omicron COVID cases in the UK.

From Saturday morning, France is banning travel to and from the UK without "compelling reasons".

Those reasons do not include travel for tourism and business, Paris said.

UK Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said hauliers will not be affected.

"To confirm, I have liaised with my French counterpart, and hauliers will remain exempt," he tweeted.

French nationals and their spouses are also unaffected by the new rules.
Wouldn't be surprised to see a EU wide ban in the near future. How they think this will control the spread of Omicron is anyone's guess.
Not about controlling the spread, it's about minimising the rate at which it spreads to avoid overwhelming the health services.
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Felix wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:27 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:42 pm I just like real women, the ones that have curves and wear leather, no skinny, whiney bitches for me.
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