Stealth Omicron

[weeksy]

Why did you stop?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Why did you stop?

Achey joints makes cycling painful, especially knees and elbows, the aches are starting to go away, so I'm hoping to get out on the bike again soon.

[irie]

Why did you stop?

I'll be out tomorrow. Home to Centurion Way (5 minutes from home) to Lavant, Chalkpit Lane to the Trundle, have a bite and a rest, then flat out downhill on Monarch's Way to West Dean, then Centurion Way back home with a bit of mucking around as we go along. Cycling buddy is a retired orthopaedic consultant surgeon. Chalkpit Lane is a fearsome climb when the chalk is wet. I have a son who'll go down it flat out but then he's bonkers, love him to bits.

[Cousin Jack]

Judging by people at work who've had the booster you're probably in for a couple of days of fairly full on flu symptoms.

I don't know whether to have a booster or not, have a booster and I'm pretty much guaranteed 2-3 days of flu followed by weeks of aching joints, or risk getting Covid which could be anything from no symptoms to a pretty bad flu and aching joints for a few weeks.

Most of the people I know have had zero to mild issues from jabs, 2nd and 3rd jabs seem to provoke a bit more reaction, but many still get nothing that is more than a very mild inconvenience, and some like me have zero side effects.

Bit like reading the side effects before taking a pill - if you think you are going to hurt you will. If you don't think about it you probably won't.

[Saga Lout]

Deal with the backlog as a priority at the expense of current Covid infectees which are largely by choice unvaccinated.

And the other life choices? Should the NHS stop treating smokers' self inflicted ills? What about fatties? Injured motorcyclists? Where do you draw the line? Or is it just those who don't want to take part in this massive drug trial that should go untreated?

[Pirahna]

Where do you draw the line?

Gender change. If you want to transition from one to another then it's 30 minutes councilling on the NHS to explain that you'll need to find the funds yourself. Anything after that you pay.

[slowsider]

Where do you draw the line?

Gender change. If you want to transition from one to another then it's 30 minutes councilling on the NHS to explain that you'll need to find the funds yourself. Anything after that you pay.

I presume they are on the waiting list for now though...

[Supermofo]

Yeah. Got them too. Can't be sure it was the booster though, the timing fits but who knows? Neurofen stash is taking a bit of a hammering.

Both me and the wife may be in trouble for NYE, we're both getting our jabs on the 30th !

Judging by people at work who've had the booster you're probably in for a couple of days of fairly full on flu symptoms.

I don't know whether to have a booster or not, have a booster and I'm pretty much guaranteed 2-3 days of flu followed by weeks of aching joints, or risk getting Covid which could be anything from no symptoms to a pretty bad flu and aching joints for a few weeks.

Think it depends. My first AZ knocked me sideways for 48 hours, nothing from the 2nd one or the 3rd booster which was pfizer.

[Supermofo]

I was worried as I've read that if you don't get a reaction from the vaccines/booster then it isn't going to work - if it doesn't, my system does! But hopefully they are tag teaming to beat the virus!! LOL

Not from what I've read. A reaction means your body is fighting what's been put in it but that doesn't mean if you don't get a reaction it's not working. I had a reaction to my first AZ but nothing from the 2nd or 3rd Pfizer. My mate felt shit after 1st AZ, nothing after the 2nd, but crap again after the 3rd Moderna. But I've head lots of people say Moderna seems to cause a reaction.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Positive test at work today from one of the dirty stop outs who went on the Xmas party, everyone who went to the party has been told to work from home

[Pirahna]

Back to Omicron, there was a piece in the Guardian about the low amount of hospitalisations in South Africa, it could be because of lots of exposure to previous covid infections. What happens there might not happen here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ation-rate

[Mr Moofo]

Back to Omicron, there was a piece in the Guardian about the low amount of hospitalisations in South Africa, it could be because of lots of exposure to previous covid infections. What happens there might not happen here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ation-rate

Or it might just be the nature of the variant, going through the lifecycle that viruses tend to follow

[irie]

Back to Omicron, there was a piece in the Guardian about the low amount of hospitalisations in South Africa, it could be because of lots of exposure to previous covid infections. What happens there might not happen here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ation-rate

Or it might just be the nature of the variant, going through the lifecycle that viruses tend to follow

^^^ This.

[irie]

This is what some of the Tory so-called "rebels" said last night:

"Why should people listen to the Prime Minister's instructions to follow the rules when people inside Number 10 Downing Street don't do so?" Mark Harper

"It is vital that the maximum number of Conservative MPs vote against 'Plan B', whatever our useless opposition do." Steve Baker

"Where is the evidence that vaccine passports actually work? ... Austria, Greece and the German states that have used them are in the same position, with more cases. Vaccinated people can still catch and transmit the disease and there is a sizeable chance that passports will introduce a false sense of security." David Davis

"He [Sajid Javid] used expressions such as 'could', 'can', 'potential', 'suggests' and 'might'. Does that not show that there is no justification for these restrictions upon liberty?" Sir Christopher Chope

"Our freedoms are being taken away again on the basis of what a variant might, not does, do. These variants will continue to hit us for years to come and this country cannot go on reacting to them in the way in which we are doing." Richard Drax

"We seem to be on a slippery slope towards lockdown based on precisely no real data, which is a worry. It seems to be the precautionary principle gone completely mad." Craig Mackinlay

"I don't support 'Plan B'. Vaccine passports are divisive and discriminatory. They do not stop the spread of Covid. 'Plan B' will cost jobs in many sectors, including hospitality. Working from home won't help our social or economic recovery. I won't vote for these measures." Simon Jupp

"[It is the] latest in a long line of arbitrary, unnecessary, socialist measures ... I am sorry that the Secretary of State seems to have gone native so fast ... Will he give me any reason at all why I should not tell my constituents to treat these new rules in exactly the same way that Number 10 Downing Street treated last year's rules?" Philip Davies

"I cannot vote for restrictions 'just in case' at a time when hospitalisations and deaths are falling. I don't believe the evidence supports 'Plan B' and I will not vote for it." Ben Bradley

"The evidence we have been presented with does not justify further restrictions on liberties." Dehenna Davison

[gremlin]

Boris to address the nation at 5pm....

More restrictions? Or is his authority so badly bruised that he won't take that chance?

Maybe just plead for more jobs in arms?

Roll up, roll up...place yer bets.

[irie]

Would put my money on softening us up prior to next week imposing more restrictions either immediately after Christmas holidays or after New Year holidays.

[irie]

Boris Johnson press conference.

15 people with Omicron are in hospital in the UK.

[irie]

The UK Health Security Agency believes the Omicron variant is causing around 200,000 new infections per day.

My London based step son says that Omicron is rampant, everyone's getting it, but it's pretty much like a 'flu epidemic.

Just loving the latest measures that will do exactly the sum total of fuck all to slow the spread of this, as it increasingly seems to be, endemic variant.

[gremlin]

Great. I can still go to the theatre tomorrow.

[weeksy]

The UK Health Security Agency believes the Omicron variant is causing around 200,000 new infections per day.

My London based step son says that Omicron is rampant, everyone's getting it, but it's pretty much like a 'flu epidemic.

Just loving the latest measures that will do exactly the sum total of fuck all to slow the spread of this, as it increasingly seems to be, endemic variant.

What measures would you implement if you were in charge?