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millemille wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:48 pm
weeksy wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:42 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:33 pm

And they're a visible symbol of compliance.
Deffo, that's it. We wear them to show we've been fully assimilated and are nothing more than puppets and sheep.

FFS
Are you only wearing a fresh, closely fitted, ffp3 mask, only touched by freshly washed hands every time you wear a mask?
Tbf fella, whatever I write you're going to knock in some way. I'm doing what I think is right, as it seems are you. However, trying to change your opinion or thought would be completely pointless so I'm not going to try.
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millemille wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:48 pm
Are you only wearing a fresh, closely fitted, ffp3 mask, only touched by freshly washed hands every time you wear a mask?
No, I've got a beard, or I'm a child, or I'm coloured, or I'm Asian, or I wear a mask to help protect others and an unfiltered exhaust valve on an FFP3 or N95 mask negates that
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millemille wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:48 pm Only touched by freshly washed hands every time you wear a mask?
So far since this Covid started i have only sanitized my hands twice and that was going into the hospital for my jabs. Im a dirty bastard and always was as a kid playing in the mud or whatever. Must have driven my mother up the wall but i believe its built up a good immune system over the years. Even now doing gardening for a living i am never that clean during the day and just treat every day as normal, Well apart from the masks but even without covid i feel folk can be to clean nowadays. It seems every other person has an allergy to something or another. We all have a different take on what is going on and there is no point trying to convince anyone who may not agree with you and vice versa. I have anti vax mates and customers who still think its all just governments trying to control our movements but i just smile at them and move on.
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Wearing a seat belt doesn't always save you in a crash.
Ditto with a crash helmet on a bike.

But you'd be an idiot to not use them anyway.

Same with masks. Stop being twats.
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I'll tell you what else you can forget about. All that Omicron variant bollocks.
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Potter wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:52 am I cannot demonstrably show that masks are helping in any way, ...
Posted this before* but here it is again - the latest research published on the BMJ which among other measures researches mask effectiveness.

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068302
Conclusions

This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests that several personal protective and social measures, including handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing are associated with reductions in the incidence covid-19. Public health efforts to implement public health measures should consider community health and sociocultural needs, and future research is needed to better understand the effectiveness of public health measures in the context of covid-19 vaccination.
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Potter wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:58 am
irie wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:48 am
Potter wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:52 am I cannot demonstrably show that masks are helping in any way, ...
Posted this before* but here it is again - the latest research published on the BMJ which among other measures researches mask effectiveness.

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068302
My post was just about my data.

I said "I can't" - we've had no increased or decreased incidences of catching covid regardless of mask use, or not.
But "I can" show it's had a detrimental effect, based on a group of about 100k working people.
I have provided evidence that it is most likely that masks do help (after analysis of a large sample size).

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Just heard a numpty on the radio moaning about no leccy.

First he said food was going off in the fridge. Hmm, put it outside the back door.
Then said they only had the wood burner to keep warm. Hmm

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Potter wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:43 amThe curves didn't change on transmission regardless of whether masks were mandated indoors or not.
Did anything else change through that period (vaccination, etc.) and do you know how thoroughly various measures were followed or enforced?
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The F35 that was reported as crashed in the med last week...

I think I'd have jumped out too.

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WTF? How did it crash on take off? I thought that bit was relatively simple (from an onlookers POV of course!!!)
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It was going far too slow to ever take off, I dunno if the F35 uses a catapult for take off?
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Noggin wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:25 am WTF? How did it crash on take off? I thought that bit was relatively simple (from an onlookers POV of course!!!)
I think the F35 wasn't going fast enough to develop enough lift to be able to fly after clearing the ramp. The reason(s) for this will become apparent in due course.
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It's rumoured that an intake blank was left in the lift fan intake (the open flap behind the cockpit). This provides vertical lift for short take off, or not as it seems to be in this case.

Having worked on RN flight decks, (on sea harriers and lynx) I find it absolutely gob snacking that procedures allow this to happen.
The person that recorded this video and forwarded it on had probably lost their job after spending time in DQs
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:36 am It was going far too slow to ever take off, I dunno if the F35 uses a catapult for take off?
Other variants do, the UK opted for the variant with vertical take off / landing and a ski ramp
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I guess not enough vertical thrust then!
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Taff wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:01 am It's rumoured that an intake blank was left in the lift fan intake (the open flap behind the cockpit). This provides vertical lift for short take off, or not as it seems to be in this case.
I'd have guessed that's unlikely, simply 'cause the fan would 'choke' if the bung was still there. On a plane as sophisticated as the F35 I can't believe the computers wouldn't realise that the fan isn't able to suck enough air in during the preflight....but then stranger things have happened I guess!

It looks like it either doesn't have enough power, or the fan wasn't driving doesn't it? So it could be a "simple" engine failure or maybe the fan drive system broke. It uses a driveshaft and clutch pack to turn the lift fan using the engine, if either of those two bits failed the fan wouldn't make any vertical lift.

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Judging by what Dazzle said above, my guess is that there was a sudden failure which triggered the avionics to instruct the pilot to eject. But hey, what do I know.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:23 am
Taff wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:01 am It's rumoured that an intake blank was left in the lift fan intake (the open flap behind the cockpit). This provides vertical lift for short take off, or not as it seems to be in this case.
I'd have guessed that's unlikely, simply 'cause the fan would 'choke' if the bung was still there. On a plane as sophisticated as the F35 I can't believe the computers wouldn't realise that the fan isn't able to suck enough air in during the preflight....but then stranger things have happened I guess!

It looks like it either doesn't have enough power, or the fan wasn't driving doesn't it? So it could be a "simple" engine failure or maybe the fan drive system broke. It uses a driveshaft and clutch pack to turn the lift fan using the engine, if either of those two bits failed the fan wouldn't make any vertical lift.

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As I said, the intake blank being in place is just the rumour that's going on in the fleet air arm groups (which is likely to have come from someone onboard) , and the general consensus is that it's unbelievable for that to happen but here we are with a very waterlogged cab.

Iirc the fan only spins up when the rear nozzle is rotated downwards and it does that in a very short time, virtually a crash engagement. And yes, warnings would have been screaming at him hence the ejection.
It's all guesswork until it's recovered and the AIB investigation is published, assuming we recover it before the Chinese get there.
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Taff wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:07 am and it does that in a very short time, virtually a crash engagement
Yeah that clutch is a very impressive bit of kit. I was working at R-R when it was being developed (working in a different dept) and they were very proud of it, so it was always in company bulletins. It's something mad like 15,000bhp engaged in half a second.