Thoughts on the Genadier?

[Docca]

I'm tempted.

https://expeditionportal.com/the-new-in ... and-glory/

[Slenver]

Saw it a couple of days ago and thought it looked an awful lot more like a modernised Defender than the modernised Defender. Cheaper too...

Not sure what JLR will think of it

Of course,real Landys have a canvas top.

[KungFooBob]

Looks 80% Defender and 20% early 80's Land Cruiser.

[cheb]

I'd like to see it in the metal before I'd comment. Passable CGI though.

[Bigjawa]

Remember the Santana Spanish built landys that actually had a decent Iveco engine and were shedloads cheaper than the real thing?

Nobody bought them, I suspect these will be the same.

[Slenver]

Remember the Santana Spanish built landys that actually had a decent Iveco engine and were shedloads cheaper than the real thing?

Nobody bought them, I suspect these will be the same.

My Landy has an Iveco engine... but only cos the first one presumably blew up.

[wheelnut]

I’ve got the same thoughts as Iccy - always preferred the 90 to the 110. If they make that version and it’s not stupidly priced I would consider one.

[G.P]

Presumably it will house a powertrain for which is emmision compliant and spares are already available across the globe?

So probably a Jap 3.0 Diesel?

I love the idea of it and wish them well

[Gimlet]

Too sloaney, too expensive and too complicated if they want to tout it as a genuine working 4X4 successor to the Defender.
45 grand starting price with BMW. 3.0L engines and an automatic 8 speed gearbox? No thanks.

Good luck to them but I wouldn't be buying one even if I could afford it.
the real gap in the commercial 4X4 market is for a 4X4 van with decent ground clearance, full undercarriage protection simple, grunty engines, simple cabin and £20,000 price tag new.

[Bigjawa]

Too sloaney, too expensive and too complicated if they want to tout it as a genuine working 4X4 successor to the Defender.
45 grand starting price with BMW. 3.0L engines and an automatic 8 speed gearbox? No thanks.

Good luck to them but I wouldn't be buying one even if I could afford it.
the real gap in the commercial 4X4 market is for a 4X4 van with decent ground clearance, full undercarriage protection simple, grunty engines, simple cabin and £20,000 price tag new.

Such a vehicle already exists in the UAZ 452, but it would be murdered on emissions if they ever tried importing it.

[Rockburner]

Remember the Santana Spanish built landys that actually had a decent Iveco engine and were shedloads cheaper than the real thing?

Nobody bought them, I suspect these will be the same.

There's quite a few kicking around in Spain and Portugal....

[Bigjawa]

Remember the Santana Spanish built landys that actually had a decent Iveco engine and were shedloads cheaper than the real thing?

Nobody bought them, I suspect these will be the same.

There's quite a few kicking around in Spain and Portugal....

Portugal had the beautifully named UMM as well.

[Rockburner]

Remember the Santana Spanish built landys that actually had a decent Iveco engine and were shedloads cheaper than the real thing?

Nobody bought them, I suspect these will be the same.

There's quite a few kicking around in Spain and Portugal....

Portugal had the beautifully named UMM as well.

My surf instructor had one (iirc).

[Tomcat]

It has a pretty clear homage to Landy styling, with nods to Land Cruiser and Hummer. I'm sure it'll find a loyal following on looks alone. What it's like as a utility/offroad/expedition vehicle I'm not qualified to say but the blurb does appear to be making the right noises. I was disappointed that Land Rover had to give up making utility vehicles because they failed to develop them, got overtaken by emissions and safety then couldn't afford to catch up. Having driven a couple they were godawful relics that should maybe have stayed in the 1960s anyway. Maybe this'll turn out to be the car that picks up where LR should have got to. Which would be nice, even though I think Ratcliffe is an asshole, because car manufacturing in this country needs to get into gear and stop being reliant on multinationals who are likely to leave after tariff barriers come up.