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Re: Underrated bikes

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Is that the one Superbike tarted up?
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It was.
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Well, this could also be different in a different country, but over here I think the Bmw G450x was a pretty good thing and very underrated.
The ktm, bergs and huskies seem to shit all over it with sales and popularity, but I reckon as far as performance it was right up there with them.
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Caponord 1200's.

They seem quite cheap compared to other ADV bikes of similar age and mileage.

Are they a hidden gem, or total pap?
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:52 pm Caponord 1200's.

They seem quite cheap compared to other ADV bikes of similar age and mileage.

Are they a hidden gem, or total pap?
Why do you think they're cheap?
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:12 pm Why do you think they're cheap?
Something to do with my brain, I'm not sure on the specifics.
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:13 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:12 pm Why do you think they're cheap?
Something to do with my brain, I'm not sure on the specifics.
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Go on buy one, or at least test ride one.
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Jawa 350? MZ300ETZ?

I'll get my coat :)
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:04 pm Jawa 350? MZ300ETZ?

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I had a MuZ 301 Saxon Tour NE (to give it the full title).

Bought it as a minter for £300 from Bawtry auctions.

I think I managed two years commute, I ragged the absolute shit out of it. It lost 2rd gear, which meant slipping the clutch a bit, when 3rd went I had to fix it.

When I put it all back together a had half a dozen bolts left over from inside the engine... and still no 3rd gear (2nd worked tho'), it still went alright.

Sold it for £50 to a mates dad for kids to use as a field bike.
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I can scarcely credit the money old Moon Zappers are attracting now. Funnily enough,from laughing at them in my callow youth as the epitome of uncool,I quite like the looks now! I still think Jawa/CZ are shit,though.
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Skub wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:39 pm I can scarcely credit the money old Moon Zappers are attracting now. Funnily enough,from laughing at them in my callow youth as the epitome of uncool,I quite like the looks now! I still think Jawa/CZ are shit,though.
Same here,I think the old MZ's are alternative & niche enough to be quite cool.Back in the day they were a good workhorse.
Probably make a good reliable commuter & not so desirable to thieves (or hipsters). :D
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Skub wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:39 pm I can scarcely credit the money old Moon Zappers are attracting now. Funnily enough,from laughing at them in my callow youth as the epitome of uncool,I quite like the looks now! I still think Jawa/CZ are shit,though.
As someone who once owned a CZ250 for a short while I can confirm that they were shit in the early 80s. The passing years will not have improved them
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inewham wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:38 pm I wouldn't mind having a go on a Skorpion Sport though
I had a naked Skorpion. I'd have another tomorrow.
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I wouldn't mind having a go on a Skorpion Sport though
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How about this one, a friend used to race it, I don't think any of it was actually made by MuZ, it is an ex factory race bike
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Don't forget the MZ 1000S...

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The only one I've seen in the flesh was in the DDR Museum in Berlin.
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Jawas and Cieze-its weren't that bad, I've had a load of them. They were just a bit basic and when they tarted them up, they looked a hell of a lot faster than they were.

Great for riding about one handed once you mastered the Kickstart/gears/clutch business. Plus the 350 had a neutral between 3rd and 4th for coasting downhill.

MZs were a totally different story, they were literally as well built as BMWs. I went round Europe on a 1982 ETZ that stood me £35. Never missed a beat apart from needing a condenser in France.

Top speed was 80 odd but it would sit all day at 75, it handled amazingly in any conditions and the front Brembo was the same as a BMW/Ducati/Guzzi.

Regret selling the old beast.
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At the time I owned my Burgman AN400Y https://www.google.com/search?q=burgman ... zPP_-XD84M, 2001-2005, it was considered a pretty eccentric choice by most bikers. Only the initiés of the maxi scoot and feet forward groups knew how capable they were :)
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Potter wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:24 am
Mr Moofo wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:26 pm I would love a Cagiva Elefant - anyone got one?
One of my dream bikes as a yoof, only ever saw one parked up when I was about 14yrs old. My dads mate explained what it was and I was hooked.

I’m not sure the reality of ownership would match up but they’re beautiful things. I distinctly remember the one I saw having the words Elefant Rally on the side panel.
https://www.moto.it/news/nuova-lucky-ex ... -spia.html

Looks right up your alley 😁
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The SF looks like some one tried to copy a Tunono from a drunken memory.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-detai ... 8106074112

I quite like the Superbike one.