Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[Horse]

There has been a lot of information in the media about how vaccines affect the immune system suppressing infection, but understanding it does depend upon reading it. And perhaps upon having a reading age above the UK average which would seem to be much lower than I previously thought ...

FWIW, Heningway.com suggests:

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[Yambo]

There has been a lot of information in the media about how vaccines affect the immune system suppressing infection, but understanding it does depend upon reading it. And perhaps upon having a reading age above the UK average which would seem to be much lower than I previously thought ...

FWIW, Heningway.com suggests:

LOL

You have your moments too Horse!

Serious answer.

We've lost one age 51, massive heart attack.
None of the above related to lifestyle, whether biking or not. It's probably just because you know riders.

Massive heart attacks are often related to lifestyle.

Indeed. He was mid-way through a game of squash at the time he collapsed.

[Horse]

Well, I meant as in the usual suspects, such as smoking

For completeness:

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[Count Steer]

Interesting interview on Radio 4 this morning . The manager of a Care Home was losing an experienced and highly valued carer because she did not wish to be vaccinated . All the carers are regularly submitted to 3 or 4 Covid tests per week ( One PCR , the rest LFTs ) .

She asked why she HAD to be vaccinated when other folk ( such as nominated family carers and visiting general members of the public ) DO NOT !

Don't get me wrong , I think it would be great if everybody possible was jabbed . The manger simply could not answer the departing carer's question .

I heard that. He said her concerns related to the Thalidomide vaccination.

On TV news they had a trainee doctor who 'may have to give up her training' because she won't have the Covid vaccine. (I assume she'll have/has had the other mandatory stuff). The interviewer didn't ask if she was prepared to vaccinate other people.

[gremlin]

Random drug tests are normal in my industry,which deals with trivial money matters. I would have thought that the people shoving the need for the vaccination would be in front of the rest of us.

If not they cam fuck off and find employment in another industry.

I sort of assumed that coke was compulsory for anybody with posh job in London.

In the last round of testing one bond trader was found to be carrying absolutely no cocaine nor speed and was dismissed on the spot.

School boy error

[Dodgy69]

Booked my flu jab today...boots online booking service.

Booked my covid booster today... NHS online booking service.

Sorted.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Is it time pets are vaccinated, they're spreading it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59246304

[Asian Boss]

I'll tell you what else you can forget about: all that Covid bollocks.

[cheb]

AFAIR doctors signing or not signing off legal abortions is left to their consciences, why not being choosing whether to be vaccinated too?

I'd like everyone possible to be vaccinated, just as like everyone possible to volunteer to be an organ donor. I just don't think making it compulsory is the right way to go about it.

[irie]

AFAIR doctors signing or not signing off legal abortions is left to their consciences, why not being choosing whether to be vaccinated too?

I'd like everyone possible to be vaccinated, just as like everyone possible to volunteer to be an organ donor. I just don't think making it compulsory is the right way to go about it.

[slowsider]

The change to opting out rather than opting in with organ donation had a significant impact on transplant numbers. Needs a different approach for vaccinations.

[Mussels]

Didn't know that. I think the press should make a bigger issue of this, therefore putting the pressure on those non vaccs.

I'm betting that depends on what articles you read... i'll bet that there's just as many articles say no than say yes....

There has been a lot of information in the media about how vaccines affect the immune system suppressing infection, but understanding it does depend upon reading it. And perhaps upon having a reading age above the UK average which would seem to be much lower than I previously thought ...

https://www.ascento.co.uk/blog/are-you- ... loyees-are

Readability data suggest that the average reading age of the UK population is 9 years – that is, they have achieved the reading ability normally expected of a 9-year-old. The Guardian has a reading age of 14 and the Sun has a reading age of 8.

I think the author of that has a mathematical literacy age of 4.

[Yorick]

Lots of cocky arrogant twats walk in bars here without masks. All the staff are mustard keen. They don't want breathing over.

No mask. No drink. No exceptions. Funny seeing their faces. Still believing they are above the law

[cheb]

The change to opting out rather than opting in with organ donation had a significant impact on transplant numbers. Needs a different approach for vaccinations.

Assuming it's a positive change, as in more transplants, is that because doctors are just going ahead and harvesting, or that they feel they can ask donor's relatives?

IIRC Italy had a huge rise in the number of donors because of a high profile case, not because they took away informed consent.

Would this forcing of NHS staff to be vaccinated apply to all NHS staff or just patient facing ones? If the former then why not compulsory healthy lifestyle changes? What about primary care, GPs and the like, frequently not NHS staff, just private contractors to the NHS?

To me this all reeks of sanctimonious handwringing If It Saves One life moral blackmail.

[cheb]

AFAIR doctors signing or not signing off legal abortions is left to their consciences, why not being choosing whether to be vaccinated too?

I'd like everyone possible to be vaccinated, just as like everyone possible to volunteer to be an organ donor. I just don't think making it compulsory is the right way to go about it.

I've not got a very good internet connection ATM, can you give me a few days to trawl through everything you've ever written on the internet so as I can post a rebuttal?

[slowsider]

The change to opting out rather than opting in with organ donation had a significant impact on transplant numbers. Needs a different approach for vaccinations.

Assuming it's a positive change, as in more transplants, is that because doctors are just going ahead and harvesting, or that they feel they can ask donor's relatives?

IIRC Italy had a huge rise in the number of donors because of a high profile case, not because they took away informed consent.

Would this forcing of NHS staff to be vaccinated apply to all NHS staff or just patient facing ones? If the former then why not compulsory healthy lifestyle changes? What about primary care, GPs and the like, frequently not NHS staff, just private contractors to the NHS?

To me this all reeks of sanctimonious handwringing If It Saves One life moral blackmail.

With organ donation it's said to be one life per day, prior to opt-out 80% were said to be in favour but only 34% opted in. No one is forced into it.

[irie]

AFAIR doctors signing or not signing off legal abortions is left to their consciences, why not being choosing whether to be vaccinated too?

I'd like everyone possible to be vaccinated, just as like everyone possible to volunteer to be an organ donor. I just don't think making it compulsory is the right way to go about it.

I've not got a very good internet connection ATM, can you give me a few days to trawl through everything you've ever written on the internet so as I can post a rebuttal?

No need to trawl through anything, it's here.

Asserting any kind of equivalence between a doctor signing off a legal abortion requested by a patient and a patient potentially being involuntarily infected with a preventable serious disease by a doctor is nonsense.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Lots of cocky arrogant twats walk in bars here without masks. All the staff are mustard keen. They don't want breathing over.

No mask. No drink. No exceptions. Funny seeing their faces. Still believing they are above the law

Is there any point ordering a drink if you've got to wear a mask?

[slowsider]

Lots of cocky arrogant twats walk in bars here without masks. All the staff are mustard keen. They don't want breathing over.

No mask. No drink. No exceptions. Funny seeing their faces. Still believing they are above the law

Is there any point ordering a drink if you've got to wear a mask?

Yorick, earlier

[DefTrap]

It's a real mixed bag in my locale now.

In bars and restaurants everyone's pretty much given up mask wearing.

In shops it's 100% masks on.

In my local surgery 100% masks on for patients but bizarrely one of the doctors wandering about unmasked.

So it's all a bit illogical. Where is dangerous and suitable and why.