The Brexit thread

[irie]

Funniest post of the year.

What is/are your source(s) of information JamJar?

A Ouija board

Funniest post of the year.

[Mr. Dazzle]

People can spend the next ten years moaning, or the next ten years making their life awesome.

Can't I just plod the middle ground of apathy? Is that allowed?

[cheb]

People can spend the next ten years moaning, or the next ten years making their life awesome.

Can't I just plod the middle ground of apathy? Is that allowed?

I'd join you there, if I could be bothered.

[Horse]

Going into France a week ago, I had to queue at the non-EU passport check window to be stared at by a French guard.

Very different to previously, when it was queuing at the EU window, to be stared at by a French guard.

[Asian Boss]

Nor am I. Just watching it all unfold.

I enjoy your posts, I like the provocative nature of them, I don't think you take it to seriously and it gives me something to reply to
But I do think some people really are embittered by it all, I feel bad for them stuck in that entrenched mindset where they believe that they're held down by something.

Brexit won't cure cancer, invent a new type of wheel or give free doughnuts out on Fridays.

IMHO in the next decade it won't offer very much that we didn't already have, apart from a lot of hassle, but eventually it'll iron itself out once the EU get used to it, or fall apart themselves. Then the British political elite can carry on sabotaging other things and each other and the unwashed can moan about something else.

People can spend the next ten years moaning, or the next ten years making their life awesome.
It's all out there.

I don't think pointing out the negative realities of Brexit (which were warned of beforehand) are necessarily 'moaning'; nor does it prevent progressing one's own life.

[Asian Boss]

Half of farmers face ruin from subsidy cuts, warn experts.
Accountancy firm Douglas Home & Co said that for many farmers, European Union subsidy payments propped up their business.
But as part of Brexit, the Basic Payment Scheme is being phased out between 2021 and 2028, meaning farmers could lose between 50-70% of their subsidy by 2024.
Deeper cuts and further changes will also likely continue well beyond 2024.
“Our estimate is that at least 50% of farmers could see their profit wiped out," warned Victoria Ivinson, head of the agricultural team at Douglas Home & Co.
"While most may break even, many will be running at a loss once the subsidies are cut. That is a horrifying prospect.

https://www.farminguk.com/news/half-of- ... 59201.html

That's the Brexit I voted for. Just as well we now know to ignore all experts and get all reliable information from window cleaners on Facebook.

[Cousin Jack]

I don't think pointing out the negative realities of Brexit (which were warned of beforehand) are necessarily 'moaning'; nor does it prevent progressing one's own life.

It does get boring though. Realities, good or bad, become obvious anyway. Having all the negative potential realities pointed out repeatedly does sound a lot like moaning.

[Asian Boss]

I don't think pointing out the negative realities of Brexit (which were warned of beforehand) are necessarily 'moaning'; nor does it prevent progressing one's own life.

It does get boring though. Realities, good or bad, become obvious anyway. Having all the negative potential realities pointed out repeatedly does sound a lot like moaning.

I don't think it's reasonable to call it 'moaning'. That's pejorative. Was Martin Luther King 'moaning' about black rights?

Also it's the biggest political act in decades which effects everyone. And within 'The Brexit Thread' is entirely in context.

Would you like 'The Brexit Thread' to only be positive comments about all the sweet, sweet Brexit Gold? Why don't you add some?

[irie]

I don't think pointing out the negative realities of Brexit (which were warned of beforehand) are necessarily 'moaning'; nor does it prevent progressing one's own life.

It does get boring though. Realities, good or bad, become obvious anyway. Having all the negative potential realities pointed out repeatedly does sound a lot like moaning.

I don't think it's reasonable to call it 'moaning'. That's pejorative. Was Martin Luther King 'moaning' about black rights?

Also it's the biggest political act in decades which effects everyone. And within 'The Brexit Thread' is entirely in context.

Would you like 'The Brexit Thread' to only be positive comments about all the sweet, sweet Brexit Gold? Why don't you add some?

All been done before here, in 'the other place', and more widely.

Bluntly, I can't be arsed to repeat it when Ponyesque confirmation bias will mean that it will again be ignored.

It's neither all black nor all white.

[Yambo]

Half of farmers face ruin from subsidy cuts, warn experts.
Accountancy firm Douglas Home & Co said that for many farmers, European Union subsidy payments propped up their business.
But as part of Brexit, the Basic Payment Scheme is being phased out between 2021 and 2028, meaning farmers could lose between 50-70% of their subsidy by 2024.
Deeper cuts and further changes will also likely continue well beyond 2024.
“Our estimate is that at least 50% of farmers could see their profit wiped out," warned Victoria Ivinson, head of the agricultural team at Douglas Home & Co.
"While most may break even, many will be running at a loss once the subsidies are cut. That is a horrifying prospect.

https://www.farminguk.com/news/half-of- ... 59201.html

That's the Brexit I voted for. Just as well we now know to ignore all experts and get all reliable information from window cleaners on Facebook.

They could always diversify and start growing things on the land they were getting subsidies for. Although maybe they've forgotten how to be farmers.

[Count Steer]

I don't think pointing out the negative realities of Brexit (which were warned of beforehand) are necessarily 'moaning'; nor does it prevent progressing one's own life.

It does get boring though. Realities, good or bad, become obvious anyway. Having all the negative potential realities pointed out repeatedly does sound a lot like moaning.

Would you like 'The Brexit Thread' to only be positive comments about all the sweet, sweet Brexit Gold? Why don't you add some?

All you'll get is 'please stop talking about it', 'it'll take 20 years before we see benefits', 'we told you last year what all the positives are' or 'I'm all right Jack'.

[DefTrap]

I do think there'll be a backlash, once the have-nots (who -are- fecking Daily Express readers FFS) who were promised the world on a stick post-Brexit are now finding out that they were lied to. And that the "Brexit intellectual elite" who now claim they never believed any of it all along have abandoned them. No new hospitals for you Joe Bloggs old pal, but we can offer you Bogdan's old driving job and a bag-for-life to shit into in a layby.

I dunno what that backlash might be though, they should be punishing -themselves- for being so easily led. Probably it'll just lead to even further disenchantment with politics, even lower turnouts at elections.
Shame really - they should be dragging politicians from their houses and bonfiring them.

[DefTrap]

there was (almost) one other person voting against it, without knowing why.

But that's easily dismissed - they were voting for the status quo.

But that's not my point - when it turns out that there really aren't unicorns, there will probably be a reckoning.
COVIDs has probably delayed it. Boris waffle can only delay it so much farther.

[slowsider]

Bluntly, I can't be arsed to repeat it

Oh come now, you know that's not true...

[Cousin Jack]

Brexit is done. Nothing else needs saying.

In 20/50/100 years historians will give a considered verdict, all you and I can do is carry on.

[Noggin]

Brexit is done. Nothing else needs saying.

In 20/50/100 years historians will give a considered verdict, all you and I can do is carry on.

But for some that it does affect on a daily/weekly/monthly basis, I see more complaints being aired. Mostly because those that it is affecting (that I know) didn't vote for it and have had issues, hardships, difficulties forced on them by people voting for the unicorns

[DefTrap]

I can see the negatives, but frankly I don't really care, I'm clever enough to side-step any of them and get what I want out of life

I've stopped moaning about it so much (yes, really!) because I wasn't pissed off about it for myself. Like most things, given the right set of circumstances, advantages, leg-ups, yes even intelligence and resourcefulness it will impact most people not one jot. So, I don't really care about it so much - anyone who wants to do those things they could do pre Brexit, will find a way. Screw everyone else to be honest

By the way - I'm totally up for reading positive News stories about brexit, assuming there is any? (Assuming it's not nonsense anyway.) Let's hope it hasn't all been in vain.
Did all the forrin johnnies going home fix the problems with ghetto housing? Has everybody that supposedly wanted a job, got a job?

[Yorick]

Come on, no one was voting for unicorns and most of everyone had no idea what the status quo was, if you stopped your average bloke in the street and asked him about the UK balance sheet he'd probably swallow his own tongue.

It's also not a massive disaster, aside from expats I haven't heard from anyone with an actual tangible disadvantage that isn't able to be side-stepped by some fairly basic planning.

I didn't really give a shit. But pissed off that the GBP/Euro rate dropped

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

What's done is done, move on, get on with life, make the best life you can for yourself, or you can whinge about how it's all someone else's fault and wallow in your own misery.

[Count Steer]

All you'll get is 'please stop talking about it', 'it'll take 20 years before we see benefits', 'we told you last year what all the positives are' or 'I'm all right Jack'.

On the contrary, keep on complaining about it, I enjoy laughing at you

In that respect, we have a mutually beneficial relationship.