30yrs of the Blade

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Bigjawa wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:06 pm The original Blade was awesome looking back in 1992. That looks like Dolly Parton in a school uniform. Just wrong.
That's just reminded me of Sharon, who used to catch the same school bus as me many years ago ;)
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Skub wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:55 pm It never seemed to give any warning of impending disasters and in some ways that made me a little uncomfortable,always wondering if you actually even get a warning.
Oddly enough, when I was very fortunate to get an invite to ride some Honda pre-production models by Honda US, I had a spin on the next-year Fireblade and my feedback was similar... it just didn't really tell me how hard I was pushing. It felt totally calm and controlled on the same roads I'd ridden over on a BMW GS which was bouncing around and letting me know the surface was crap.
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If I had to explain you wouldn’t understand ……
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:06 pm It felt totally calm and controlled on the same roads I'd ridden over on a BMW GS which was bouncing around and letting me know the surface was crap.
That's a very strange way of saying the Honda had better suspension that the GS ;)
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My 929 was excellent and my 2007 was good on the road and superb on the track where it lives now.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:39 pm That's a very strange way of saying the Honda had better suspension that the GS ;)
It's hard to explain but it was too good - I KNEW I was pushing quite hard on a shitty road surface with some really awkward rises, dips and sharp bends but the bike wasn't transmitting any of that. I was pretty close to MY limits, but had no idea where the bike's limits were. The BM was wobbling all over the place, and was actually not just more reassuring because it was letting me know it wasn't actually dealing with the road all that well, but it was actually more fun because I knew I was being a bit silly on it.

Does that make sense?
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:26 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:39 pm That's a very strange way of saying the Honda had better suspension that the GS ;)
It's hard to explain but it was too good - I KNEW I was pushing quite hard on a shitty road surface with some really awkward rises, dips and sharp bends but the bike wasn't transmitting any of that. I was pretty close to MY limits, but had no idea where the bike's limits were. The BM was wobbling all over the place, and was actually not just more reassuring because it was letting me know it wasn't actually dealing with the road all that well, but it was actually more fun because I knew I was being a bit silly on it.

Does that make sense?
It does, and I can see why people criticise Honda for it. McLaren get much of the same sort of stick.

Both of them can sometimes seem like they're taking a boring dispassionate view towards vehicles. I've not worked with Honda on bikes but I've worked with McLaren quite a lot. Their attitude is a little bit "we'll make the car as good as it's possible to make the car, regardless of whether that's 'fun' or not" and I get the sense Honda are a little bit the same.

I suppose they design it to be as calm, collected and controlled as possible because that's how you make the objectively best (and fastest) bike. A real expert would be able to tell when such a vehicle is at it's limit, and if you're not a real expert WTF are you doing riding that fast anyway? That's what they'd say :D
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:36 am It does, and I can see why people criticise Honda for it. McLaren get much of the same sort of stick.

Both of them can sometimes seem like they're taking a boring dispassionate view towards vehicles. I've not worked with Honda on bikes but I've worked with McLaren quite a lot. Their attitude is a little bit "we'll make the car as good as it's possible to make the car, regardless of whether that's 'fun' or not" and I get the sense Honda are a little bit the same.

I suppose they design it to be as calm, collected and controlled as possible because that's how you make the objectively best (and fastest) bike. A real expert would be able to tell when such a vehicle is at it's limit, and if you're not a real expert WTF are you doing riding that fast anyway? That's what they'd say :D
I suspect that it's why some people have dismissed bikes like the later Fireblades as 'bland'.

Don't get me wrong - I'm happy to have a bike that's easy to ride for day to day use, as I ride bikes for work!
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Rockburner wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:40 pm
Yorick wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:04 pm I rode a few models. All seemed capable, but missed the 'crazy' gene.
Has any Honda, not including their specific race bikes, had the 'crazy' gene? They've always been the 'sensible' choice iirc.
NS400 was pretty mad.....
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I know some are going to hate this but others might appreciate it.

A mate has an original Fireblade restored back to how it should be and it now lives a cosseted life ........... He decided to do a new Fireblade race bike in the same colour scheme and all the design and application done by Tommy Hills company. The company logo's on the bodywork give away the owner for those who know ;)

It looks nice but this isnt a show pony........ its a race/track bike that gets fucking thrashed to an inch of its life

Here are both the bikes :thumbup:

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I always liked the colours.

I find it a bit scary that we're sitting around talking about '30 years of the Fireblade'. Imagine if the Norton Commando had stayed in production 30 years - it would have overlapped with the Fireblade!
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:54 am I find it a bit scary that we're sitting around talking about '30 years of the Fireblade'. Imagine if the Norton Commando had stayed in production 30 years - it would have overlapped with the Fireblade!
The original Bonneville only fell short by 4 years if you include the years it was made by 'not quite Triumph' :D So you might have seen a 'nearly new' Bonnie in a showroom next to a spanking Fireblade :lol:

Probably not the same sort of dealers!
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I still think this one looks amazing, as i expect will KFB

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My first ever really big boys bike it was.

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My Dad had one exactly like this when I was 18ish, back when I first got my licence. He bought it as an ex-Demo and rode it every day as a commuter, rain or shine. After 2 years it still looked almost new, the build quality was amazing.

It was the first proper big bike I ever rode, he let me have a go on it not long after my 33bhp restriction ended when I was 19. That was quite an eye opener. I still really want one, but realistically I hate the riding position and I'd never use it properly!

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