The Brexit thread

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Re: The Brexit thread

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Potter wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:37 am
irie wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:44 pm If you are lawfully entitled to a passport which will enable you to go where you want, then why not? I'm not sniffy about passports.
It's a good job you weren't wandering around France at the end of WW2 with that attitude, they'd have shaved your head and paraded you through the streets :lol:
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irie wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:20 am:
Not like you to intentionally miss the point.

Oh.
Not like you to actually have a point.
Only you know how a random statement about France 80 years ago relates to present day passport holders.

But I'll leave you to have the last word which you customarily need. :lol:
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The window cleaners expressing their forthright opinions on The Jeremey Vine Show insist that Brexiting large amounts of sewage into rivers and onto beeches was all part of the plan and exactly what they knew they were voting for.
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Asian Boss wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:09 pm The window cleaners expressing their forthright opinions on The Jeremey Vine Show insist that Brexiting large amounts of sewage into rivers and onto beeches was all part of the plan and exactly what they knew they were voting for.
I keep reading the stuff you write because I'm convinced that one day, even if it's just by accident, you'll write something halfway sensible. Sadly, today isn't the day. :(
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I did misspell 'beach'. :(

Still, lower tax on fruit cider. And it's all going so well. Just what everyone voted for. :thumbup:


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Disingenuous advert at best.
Pandemic and stockpiling that happened in the run-up to the end of the transition period had big impacts.

You could use the following (from the ONS) to get a rather different view of things:
Exports of UK goods to the EU fell by £7bn from Q4 2020 to Q1 2021.
Imports of EU goods from the EU to the UK fell by £14bn from Q4 2020 to Q1 2021.

So UK trade balance with the EU was £7bn to the good.
I must have missed the headlines reflecting on that/those data.
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I've pretty much given up trying to find any truth in Pony's political memes. The FT never said that, the quote was from a trade association that opposed Brexit from the start and used some very selective numbers.
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Kneerly Down wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:07 am Disingenuous advert at best.
Pandemic and stockpiling that happened in the run-up to the end of the transition period had big impacts.

You could use the following (from the ONS) to get a rather different view of things:
Exports of UK goods to the EU fell by £7bn from Q4 2020 to Q1 2021.
Imports of EU goods from the EU to the UK fell by £14bn from Q4 2020 to Q1 2021.

So UK trade balance with the EU was £7bn to the good.
I must have missed the headlines reflecting on that/those data.
But trade was down £21bn. Where's the win?
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slowsider wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:00 am
Kneerly Down wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:07 am Disingenuous advert at best.
Pandemic and stockpiling that happened in the run-up to the end of the transition period had big impacts.

You could use the following (from the ONS) to get a rather different view of things:
Exports of UK goods to the EU fell by £7bn from Q4 2020 to Q1 2021.
Imports of EU goods from the EU to the UK fell by £14bn from Q4 2020 to Q1 2021.

So UK trade balance with the EU was £7bn to the good.
I must have missed the headlines reflecting on that/those data.
But trade was down £21bn. Where's the win?
Massive trade loss (even using pro Brexit figures), rivers of sewage, medical supply shortages, industries in crisis, Christmas Brexited away, an emboldened corrupt government eroding human rights and asset stripping the infrastructure. But at least we got crowns on pint glasses, slightly more widespread use of the imperial system and sent some of the buggers back.
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I always feel slightly grubby when I click into the thread, like I'm one of those wealthy Victorian gentlemen who used to pay the guards at Bedlam a penny to watch the poor unfortunate inmates sit shouting and screaming.

As you were, chaps.

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gremlin wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:17 am I always feel slightly grubby when I click into the thread, like I'm one of those wealthy Victorian gentlemen who used to pay the guards at Bedlam a penny to watch the poor unfortunate inmates sit shouting and screaming.

As you were, chaps.

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If Brexit is working so well, why not give us the data on its upsides?
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Potter wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:30 pm I don't know where you can find that data, but I know for sure that you'll have to go somewhere other than an unshaven hard-left Tory conspiracy theorist if you want any sort of unbiased actual news, let alone news about any upsides of Brexit.

So you never bothered to watch it.
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demographic wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:39 pm
Potter wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:30 pm I don't know where you can find that data, but I know for sure that you'll have to go somewhere other than an unshaven hard-left Tory conspiracy theorist if you want any sort of unbiased actual news, let alone news about any upsides of Brexit.

So you never bothered to watch it.
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The Express: voice of the Bracists.


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Asian Boss wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:43 pm The Express: voice of the Bracists.



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The Express: voice of panic
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Cousin Jack wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:45 pm The Express: voice of panic
Positions vary greatly between newspapers: Daily Mail included the most pro-Leave articles followed by Daily Express, Daily Star, The Sun and Daily Telegraph. The newspapers including the most pro-Remain articles were, in order, Daily Mirror, The Guardian and Financial Times.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2016-05-23-uk ... ons-brexit
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Asian Boss wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:43 pm The Express: voice of the Bracists.



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That's outrageous. Next you'll be telling me that The Nationalist only prints positive stories about the SNP and Scottish independence.

I mean, a newspaper pandering to the views of it readership? Has this even happened before? Should we blame Thatcher?
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cheb wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:25 pm
Asian Boss wrote: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:43 pm The Express: voice of the Bracists.



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That's outrageous. Next you'll be telling me that The Nationalist only prints positive stories about the SNP and Scottish independence.

I mean, a newspaper pandering to the views of it readership? Has this even happened before? Should we blame Thatcher?

I think the point is more that the paper / its readers wanted Brexit; and then when it happened, they didn't like it.
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