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[slowsider]

Sounds a lot like continuing predatory behaviour.
'Men still coercing women into sex even when they are wearing a dress' non-shocker.

[Count Steer]

I told my bank manager that I self-identify as a billionaire. She wouldn't change my overdraft limit.

I decided to sue. The v expensive lawyer wouldn't accept a cheque.

[Mussels]

That is exactly the point. Trans men wearing dresses does not make them women with the same rights as women for the elementary reason that they are not women, they are trans men. We are all equal but we are not all the same as each other.

Where does that argument stop? You say trans women in dresses are not women so they shouldn’t have the same rights? Others say women in business suits are not men so they shouldn’t have the same rights?

Shall we pretend to be equal and all have the same rights or just go back to white heterosexual men doing whatever they want and stop all this pretending to be equal stuff.

I'll ignore the smelly bait about straight white men, they had nothing to do with the article.
Where does the argument stop? Why did the bloke in Europe somewhere fail in his court case to have his legal age changed? His argument was just as sound as the trans argument, he said he felt 18 so should be recognised as being 18.
It was pretty clear in the article that the nasty woman just wanted a bit of cock and used trans rights as a way to bully her lesbo girlfriend into a three way with one, which is much of the problem now as people are just using woke arguments to be selfish.

[Asian Boss]

Well, here's an article that had me slowly shaking my head in wonderment....

I'll summarise:
Some lesbians are being labelled trans phobic as they don't want to have sex with trans women as they say that being lesbian kinda rules out an attraction to willies.

BBC News - 'We're being pressured into sex by some trans women'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57853385

It's just a silly anti-trans article, this is just because some women don't want to give equal rights to trans people. I think everyone accepts that you shouldn't be forced to have sex with anyone, that's called rape, but I think some people need to decide what they want, you either can discriminate against people based on what's in their underwear, or you can't.

If we can then lets stop talking about gender equality because it won't exist, if we can't then we have to accept trans women as equal to everyone else.
That doesn't mean making laws that you have to shag them, but it does mean that you have to treat them exactly the same as anyone else in a dress - something some women seem very unhappy about.

Years ago some men didn't want gay men allowed into their changing rooms because they were scared they'd get molested or something ridiculous. Now we've got some women that don't want trans women in their changing rooms for the same reasons. It's ridiculous, we're either going to pretend that we're all equal or we're not, I'm not arsed which but I wish they'd hurry up and decide.

That is exactly the point. Trans men wearing dresses does not make them women with the same rights as women for the elementary reason that they are not women, they are trans men. We are all equal but we are not all the same as each other.

I've pressed the hate crime button.

Hate crime! Hate crime!

[gremlin]

Well, about bloody time...

Professional footballer comes out as gay.
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-59060323

All the way around the other side of the world, mind.

What's the chances of a pro footballer, maybe even one in the Premiership, in the UK coming out as gay now. I mean, looking at the averages there must be a fair few among the 5,000-odd PFA members, right?*
Or will the small minority of bigoted idiots chanting oh-so-hilarious ditties from the terraces still be enough to prevent it?


* I have a colleague who's homophobia is so great it's almost comedic. His theory is that boys who are gay cannot/do not play football in school, preferring badminton, etc., thus there can be no gay top flight footballers. It's an...interesting theory.


Edit: from the article: "There are out players at the non-league level of the English football pyramid, as well as gay referees like Ryan Atkin and James Adcock"

I know, I know....I need to grow up. I'm not proud of myself for sniggering like a schoolboy at that name.

[slowsider]

SpaceX intend to get better at taking the piss

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... ilets-leak

[DefTrap]

It was pretty clear in the article that the nasty woman just wanted a bit of cock and used trans rights as a way to bully her lesbo girlfriend into a three way with one, which is much of the problem now as people are just using woke arguments to be selfish.

Lolz.
It's a fvcked up world - I'm sure in their heads the primary objective is to be accepted as what you feel you are. But really all it comes down to is that they want to bang ladies with their big wangers.

[Bike Breaker]

I usually like a good poke...

Me too.

That picture reminded me of my Glaswegian grandpa who always called them pokey hats.

[Saga Lout]

Where does that argument stop? You say trans women in dresses are not women so they shouldn’t have the same rights? Others say women in business suits are not men so they shouldn’t have the same rights?

Shall we pretend to be equal and all have the same rights or just go back to white heterosexual men doing whatever they want and stop all this pretending to be equal stuff.

Sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't.

If a man tells us he's Napoleon, we might humour him and call him Your Excellency. We wouldn't let him raise an army and invade Russia.

[JackyJoll]

What human rights do “transwomen” (men pretending to be women) not have?

[weeksy]

What human rights do “transwomen” (men pretending to be women) not have?

One of them should be "not having middle aged men thinking we're pretending" i'm sure.

[JackyJoll]

I can’t really still claim to be middle aged.

But you’re right: when a man starts pretending to be a woman, I certainly think he’s pretending to be a woman.

If I tell the people around me I’m a woman, what rights will I lose?

[weeksy]

I can’t really still claim to be middle aged.

But you’re right: when a man starts pretending to be a woman, I certainly think he’s pretending to be a woman.

If I tell the people around me I’m a woman, what rights will I lose?

I'd expect it's the right to walk down the street without being mocked, abused, spat at and shouted at.. You'd deffo lose that. I don't claim to understand it for a single second, life in the wrong body. But i can imagine 'coming out' is just as hard than staying in.

[JackyJoll]

Abuse on the street isn’t a matter of rights, in that enacting some sort of new rights law won’t change it.

Society and the authorities are failing to uphold these people’s right to not be spat at, etc.

[Yambo]

The right to use the bathroom that is for the gender you align with.

How old is your daughter?

My granddaughter is 12 and I'm not sure she'd like to see some bloke in the Ladies flashing his meat and two veg because he 'identifies' as a woman. I certainly wouldn't like her to be subjected to that. Of course, I defend your right to think it's OK just as you, I'm sure, defend my right to think differently.

Personally, the only reason I can think of that makes it OK for people is that they may be inclined that way.

[Cousin Jack]

.................or let's take the brakes off and have it proper like a troop of baboons and see who's the daddy.

You might have noticed that in baboon society the biggest and nastiest wins. I'm not too sure that you (or I) would be high up a baboon pecking order.

[KungFooBob]

I thought it was who had the biggest, reddest, arse.

[JamJar]

The right to use the bathroom that is for the gender you align with.

How old is your daughter?

My granddaughter is 12 and I'm not sure she'd like to see some bloke in the Ladies flashing his meat and two veg because he 'identifies' as a woman. I certainly wouldn't like her to be subjected to that. Of course, I defend your right to think it's OK just as you, I'm sure, defend my right to think differently.

Personally, the only reason I can think of that makes it OK for people is that they may be inclined that way.

Why is this hypothetical trans person getting their cock out and waving it about? That doesn't happen in men's toilets, why would it happen in a ladies?

[JackyJoll]

I can’t really still claim to be middle aged.

But you’re right: when a man starts pretending to be a woman, I certainly think he’s pretending to be a woman.

If I tell the people around me I’m a woman, what rights will I lose?

The right to use the bathroom that is for the gender you align with.
The right to compete in some sports with the gender that you align with.
Etc.

Gender is bullshit. I’d still have the right to play sport in men’s events and piss in the gents.

It would be wrong to intrude on the rights of actual women.

[Saga Lout]

I can’t really still claim to be middle aged.

But you’re right: when a man starts pretending to be a woman, I certainly think he’s pretending to be a woman.

If I tell the people around me I’m a woman, what rights will I lose?

The right to use the bathroom that is for the gender you align with.
The right to compete in some sports with the gender that you align with.
Etc.

As I said before: sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't. I'm pretty sure you're smart enough to work out which is which.