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Kawasaki have announced plans for a future range of hybrid and battery-powered bikes with a timescale that will see the first examples hitting showrooms in the very near future.

In doing so, the company took the wraps off the hybrid prototype that they have been dropping hints about for the last year or so, giving a clue as to how the technology will be applied to evolutions of existing petrol-powered machines.

Bosses announced that by 2035 every major model they sell in developed markets will be either fully electric or a hybrid.

In the shorter term, the company vowed to have more than 10 battery-electric and hybrid-electric motorcycle models in showrooms by 2025, little more than three years from now. That’s a notable turnaround from a couple of years ago, when, on showing an electric prototype, Kawasaki said there was no plan for a production bike.

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Kawasaki say that come 2025 they will be launching an average of 16 new models a year (including the battery-electric and hybrids), and by then the firm will have launched 15 new off-road models, including some electric and/or hybrid machines.

Kawasaki also revealed that they’re developing hydrogen fuel technology for internal combustion engines – showing a version of the H2’s supercharged four-cylinder fitted with direct fuel injection, which is a steppingstone towards a hydrogen fuelled version.

Burning hydrogen instead of petrol means the exhaust would simply be water vapour, while retaining the performance and visceral appeal of an internal combustion engine.

The hybrid technology is what separates Kawasaki from their rivals at the moment. Although hybrid bikes have been made before, including Honda’s PCX Hybrid scooter and a handful of Piaggios, Kawasaki’s dedication to the idea is a step ahead.

Although Kawasaki haven’t officially revealed any details of the hybrid prototype, it appears to use the parallel twin engine from either the Ninja 250 or Ninja 400 (they’re visually identical, but the prototype has the slightly longer exhaust end can of the Ninja 400).

A large electric motor is fitted above the gearbox, connected to the transmission via a clutch. It can either provide drive or act as a generator to recharge the battery.

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Speaking of the battery, that’s a 48V unit mounted under the seat. Its quite small, as the intention isn’t to allow a long electric-only range, but enough to allow the bike to run in pure electric mode at city speeds for short commutes or to boost the petrol engine’s performance when more power is needed out of town.

Kawasaki have also added a semi-automatic, pushbutton-operated transmission to the bike – probably to help smooth the transition between battery power, petrol power and combined hybrid power.

Unusually, the firm’s all-electric prototype, first seen in 2019 but shown again alongside the new hybrid, has a manually operated gearshift, even though most electrics are single speed.

Battery box The 48V main battery is in a large box under the rider’s seat, while there’s also a small 12V battery to operate the petrol engine’s electronics.
Parallel lines The parallel twin engine hybrid Kawasaki prototype uses an existing twin, either from the Ninja 250 or Ninja 400, good for either 36hp (250) or 45hp (400).
Keeping cool The electric motor sits above the transmission. It’s water-cooled, with a small additional radiator below the bike’s main rad.
Clean running in town The hybrids include pure petrol drive (allowing regeneration of electric power). The pure-electric mode could be automatically invoked using geolocation in cities to meet zero-emissions zones.
Shifting made easy There’s no clutch or shift lever, but left-hand push-button controls to change ratio. An actuator on the left of the engine controls the gear shifter.
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I like how it looks
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Big changes ahead.

I wonder why Kawasaki are pursuing the hydrogen line,when the main direction appears to be battery only power?

Maybe there'll be bikes with some kind of exhaust note instead of a boring whine. :thumbup:
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Skub wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:29 am Maybe there'll be bikes with some kind of exhaust note instead of a boring whine. :thumbup:
Could be that - they might differentiate themselves, particularly to older/established customers, by retaining the noisy vibey bit.
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I have a hybrid car, and I really like it. Good real-world performance (although on paper it is a dog) and good economy. And a huge range

Now if Kawasaki can do that in a bike I am very interested.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:32 am
Skub wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:29 am Maybe there'll be bikes with some kind of exhaust note instead of a boring whine. :thumbup:
Could be that - they might differentiate themselves, particularly to older/established customers, by retaining the noisy vibey bit.
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They look pretty good and I like the hybrid idea.

Wouldn't want to be pillion on either of those pictured though, no sirree.
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weeksy wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:59 am Its quite small, as the intention isn’t to allow a long electric-only range, but enough to allow the bike to run in pure electric mode at city speeds for short commutes or to boost the petrol engine’s performance when more power is needed out of town.
Which actually makes a LOT of sense in two ways.

Firstly, as more and more cities are banning petrol bikes being able to do the last few miles on leccy has clear advantages.

Secondly, using a small petrol engine for 'cruise' (we only need ~10 hp to maintain 60 mph on the flat) and the electric motor for 'boost' when we need more power for take-off or acceleration should work delivering by combination of power when needed plus fuel economy when a bigger engine is simply wasting fuel running at a fraction of its potential, particularly if regenerative braking recharged the battery.
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:19 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:59 am Its quite small, as the intention isn’t to allow a long electric-only range, but enough to allow the bike to run in pure electric mode at city speeds for short commutes or to boost the petrol engine’s performance when more power is needed out of town.
Which actually makes a LOT of sense in two ways.

Firstly, as more and more cities are banning petrol bikes being able to do the last few miles on leccy has clear advantages.

Secondly, using a small petrol engine for 'cruise' (we only need ~10 hp to maintain 60 mph on the flat) and the electric motor for 'boost' when we need more power for take-off or acceleration should work delivering by combination of power when needed plus fuel economy when a bigger engine is simply wasting fuel running at a fraction of its potential, particularly if regenerative braking recharged the battery.
My hybrid car has a biggish petrol engine, but runs on an Atkinson cycle (more efficient than Otto cycle, but lower power) at low revs. Open the throttle and it reverts to Otto. I am fairly certain that the e-motor helps with torque especially at low speeds, but most of the power for high speed comes from the petrol.

Not sure if that is more or less efficient than the small petrol/big electric set up.
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Hybrid has long been the way to go...now the gubbermint is ignoring them.....
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David wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:21 pm Hybrid ... the gubbermint is ignoring them.....
New cars and vans powered wholly by petrol and diesel will not be sold in the UK from 2030, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.

But some hybrids would still be allowed, he confirmed.
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But no subsidies as I recall...
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Burning hydrogen instead of petrol means the exhaust would simply be water vapour, while retaining the performance and visceral appeal of an internal combustion engine.
I thought this bit was already shown to be rubbish, a hydrogen fuel cell produces water but burning it in an ICE engine produces other chemicals as well.
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Mussels wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:12 pm
Burning hydrogen instead of petrol means the exhaust would simply be water vapour, while retaining the performance and visceral appeal of an internal combustion engine.
I thought this bit was already shown to be rubbish, a hydrogen fuel cell produces water but burning it in an ICE engine produces other chemicals as well.
Shush.

Hydrogen vehicles might be the first step to flying vehicles,like we were promised by the comics in 1999.
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David wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:02 pm But no subsidies as I recall...
There's rumour that car EV subsidies are being reduced or phased out.
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Skub wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:19 pm]

Shush.

Hydrogen vehicles might be the first step to flying vehicles,like we were promised by the comics in 1999.
1999? :wtf: I was promised flying cars back in about 1959.

I am still waiting.
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