DefTrap wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:52 am
I'm not sure that it matters -which- industries are being screwed by brexit. The fact that they are and that the issues were foreseeable is enough.
The issues being foreseeable is why people voted for Brexit, this is exactly what they wanted, to prove that the UK was propped up by cheap foreign labour.
I just thought that the UK should be out of the German/French club and when asked I gave my opinion. It had nothing to do with cheap labour so stop tarring everyone with your thick Brexiters brush please.
All of you bitter and twisted people of a different opinion, that is.
DefTrap wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:52 am
I'm not sure that it matters -which- industries are being screwed by brexit. The fact that they are and that the issues were foreseeable is enough.
The issues being foreseeable is why people voted for Brexit, this is exactly what they wanted, to prove that the UK was propped up by cheap foreign labour.
Brexiters wanted to see UK industries going under, making the UK more reliant on EU imports? Gosh I hadn't realised that, I thought it was those nasty remainers hoping for carnage just so they could say 'I told you so'.
It wasn't too long ago that some on here were defending the UK pork industry as having the best standards in the world, now they can go fuck themselves because they're making Brexit look bad
Potter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:21 am
The issues being foreseeable is why people voted for Brexit, this is exactly what they wanted, to prove that the UK was propped up by cheap foreign labour.
I'm sure the pig farmers are thrilled that they're being 'slaughtered' (aha!) to prove a really fecking obvious point.
This is the tip of the iceberg. What's the next industry previously fuelled by forriners that will feel the pinch? Gravediggers? Prozzies?
Pony's correct about sticking head in the sand over this. It's been obvious for years which industries would get bent out of shape: f&d manufacturing; hospitality; healthcare; cleaning. There's been very dull studies written on the subject.
Not to do anything about it is hilarious. Let's just tick them off while they all crash.
I just thought that the UK should be out of the German/French club and when asked I gave my opinion. It had nothing to do with cheap labour so stop tarring everyone with your thick Brexiters brush please.
Which is exactly why brexit won. The government realised that the brexiters didn't care about the consequences. It's like the antivax argument " I have my opinion and I don't care".
Hoonercat wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:45 am
Brexiters wanted to see UK industries going under, making the UK more reliant on EU imports? Gosh I hadn't realised that, I thought it was those nasty remainers hoping for carnage just so they could say 'I told you so'.
I think some people want the same thing for different reasons, although it seems some on both sides of the fence want things to fail to prove their point.
The UK pork industry has been discussed on this forum previously (or maybe the ther place), as it was one of the UK industries which was seen as being particularly vulnerable after Brexit. The brexiters' argument was 'jobs for the British and better pay'. That hasn't happened, despite having 5 years to prepare for it.
I can't imagine there are too many Brexit voters who believe that EU pork producers benefiting from the collapse of the UK pork industry would in any way 'prove their point'. Unless they're moving the goalposts, of course.
I just thought that the UK should be out of the German/French club and when asked I gave my opinion. It had nothing to do with cheap labour so stop tarring everyone with your thick Brexiters brush please.
Which is exactly why brexit won. The government realised that the brexiters didn't care about the consequences. It's like the antivax argument " I have my opinion and I don't care".
Then stop being an arsehole throwing shit at people for simply giving their opinion to a straightforward question and direct your childish angst at the politicians that failed to put a qualifier on the vote,, failed to deliver a decent argument for staying in, failed to get better terms for staying in, failed to have a plan in the event of a leave vote, failed to organise our leaving, failed to arrange decent terms on things that might be important in the future and failed miserably at getting arseholes to accept the decision.
You're like a cracked and tedious old 33 record whose only decent attribute is hindsight. Get over yourself.
Yambo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:17 am
.. direct your childish angst at the politicians that failed to put a qualifier on the vote,, failed to deliver a decent argument for staying in, failed to get better terms for staying in, failed to have a plan in the event of a leave vote, failed to organise our leaving, failed to arrange decent terms on things that might be important in the future and failed miserably at getting arseholes to accept the decision.
The government 'you brexiters' voted in to deliver the revered 'oven-ready brexit'?
Yeah I find it amazing that brexiters wanted brexit apparently whatever-the-cost and have then washed their hands of responsibility for it. Shame at being gullible?
Only 127 fuel drivers from overseas have applied for temporary visas aimed at tackling shortages, the Prime Minister has said.
Boris Johnson said the haulage industry had "only produced 127 names so far" in response to the government's scheme, which is aiming for 300 drivers.
To which I would reply that Bozo has, once again, got the wrong end of the stick. Why would they even bother to come to the UK if there is a global shortage of HGV drivers? Surely they would be needed in their own countries?
Maybe it's the "no foreigners here" attitude that the UK is promoting post brexit.
Blundering about trying not to make too much of a hash of things.
Potter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:13 am
Fair point, but what to do, keep sucking on the tit that poisons you or come off it and go hungry for a bit.
You'd think 'planning' would mitigate it a bit. Schemes to fund training; schemes to help the industry to improve conditions; encouragement to raise pay. It can't just be left to market forces - one of the outcomes of market forces is total system breakdown after all.
Potter wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:13 am
The only people I see complaining about these things are remainers, so perhaps the brexiters are all happy to weather the storm?
Lolz.
The red-leaning red tops are already deserting the sinking ship. You can't have it both ways.