Potter wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:50 pm
I didn't say you were lying, I said what's the point of throwing that in the ring if you're not going to say why and make a point on the back of it.
But honestly, shall we just move on.
I've explained the point, you didn't read it or whatever.
You're the one who keeps posting and making it my fault.
If I put my conspiracy head on, much of the current furore looks orchestrated by his own party (mainly those to the right of it) and their media chums to expose him and his cabinet of spivs and incompetents. He's been their 'useful idiot' and used his popularity to deliver what they wanted. Now they want someone who can actually do the job (and not to risk losing Home Counties 'safe' seats and the new 'blue wall').
(Just suppose that the BP guy had the meeting with the politicos and they agreed that he would then brief the journos (they couldn't be seen to do such a thing) about the driver problem just to pile the pressure on).
Grunt Shapps looks like a man that's heard the squeal of the brakes on the gravy train and a few others are doing Chicken Licken impersonations.
They need to do it now so that someone competent can turn things around before the next election.
(Removes conspiracy head).
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
Count Steer wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:50 pm
They need to do it now so that someone competent
Oo's that then?
There must be some Tories in Parliament better than the cabinet shower surely? Lord help us if there isn't. The old line was that Labour get in and introduce some stuff, then the Tories get in and make the stuff work. Managing things was supposed to be a key competence, this bunch couldn't run a bath, they've been stuck on lobbing tit-bits (á la P. Patel) and sound bites to their new set of devotees. (+ building silly bridges, tunnels, handing out contracts to chums and buying yachts). They booted a shed load of experience out with people like Ken Clarke but there must be some left?
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
Potter wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:00 pm
You can laugh now but Labour aren't capable of taking over and Boris is the only thing standing between you and the overlords that don't give a shit.
Better the devil you know.
a) I'm not laughing
b) Labour are currently irrelevant
c) I'm not keen on the far right option either
d) I'd like a competent new devil and cabinet imps.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
Potter wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:00 pm
I called this a long time ago, it's here in a thread somewhere, I told you that if Boris becomes too socialist in his ideas and doesn't toe the line for big business and the people calling the shots, then they'd start to crush him.
The trouble with Boris, however bumbling, crass or stupid, that you think he is, he actually cares about people, - and big business (and the people running it) do not - he's also daft enough to stand up to them.
You can laugh now but Labour aren't capable of taking over and Boris is the only thing standing between you and the overlords that don't give a shit.
Better the devil you know.
I’ve always said that deep down boris is a bit of a liberal with a slightly left twinge at heart. The trouble is that he also seems to be a populist and will blow with the wind.
Blair pre-Iraq was ok. Cameron was ok as well, apart from the brexit debacle. Major wasn’t too bad either.
Politics seems increasingly a role for chancers and self-publicists rather than those who want actually accomplish something worthwhile or who have a vision and principles.
Asian Boss wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:33 pm
So the oven ready deal, where they need us more than we need them, appears to be going well then. Form the hyper Brexity Express too.
'Brexit fury as Boris' deal an 'insult to UK sovereignty' - Britain at mercy of EU courts'.
Asian Boss wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:33 pm
So the oven ready deal, where they need us more than we need them, appears to be going well then. Form the hyper Brexity Express too.
'Brexit fury as Boris' deal an 'insult to UK sovereignty' - Britain at mercy of EU courts'.
Asian Boss wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:33 pm
So the oven ready deal, where they need us more than we need them, appears to be going well then. Form the hyper Brexity Express too.
'Brexit fury as Boris' deal an 'insult to UK sovereignty' - Britain at mercy of EU courts'.
Another industry with piss-poor pay, diabolical working conditions, and personnel practices that stink worse than the abattoirs. And you are surprised they relied on poor immigrant labour, and are now bleating like lambs to the slaughter? Nice try to jerk Joe Public's heartstrings abut the poor little piggies though.