The Brexit thread

[Yambo]

So, for clarity: I pay hundreds of pounds more uk tax than I need to.

It seems I have done too.

My rebate cheque from HMRC is for just short of £1200. It seems they didn't want to keep it.

[Potter]

Seriously mate, then why post it?

I didn't say it was a lie, I said that it was unsubstantiated.

So, for clarity: I pay hundreds of pounds more uk tax than I need to.

I didn't say you were lying, I said what's the point of throwing that in the ring if you're not going to say why and make a point on the back of it.

But honestly, shall we just move on.

[Horse]

I didn't say you were lying, I said what's the point of throwing that in the ring if you're not going to say why and make a point on the back of it.

But honestly, shall we just move on.

I've explained the point, you didn't read it or whatever.

You're the one who keeps posting and making it my fault.

Oh, hang on

[irie]

Seriously mate, then why post it?

I didn't say it was a lie, I said that it was unsubstantiated.

So, for clarity: I pay hundreds of pounds more uk tax than I need to.

I didn't say you were lying, I said what's the point of throwing that in the ring if you're not going to say why and make a point on the back of it.

But honestly, shall we just move on.

We can only move on if you have had the last word, so now you have had the last word we'll move on.

[Asian Boss]

The Brexit. From the Bangkok Post.

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[DefTrap]

Telegraph is turning on Prince Boris now https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... =DM1499197 albeit with a slightly misleading byline

[Count Steer]

Telegraph is turning on Prince Boris now https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... =DM1499197 albeit with a slightly misleading byline

If I put my conspiracy head on, much of the current furore looks orchestrated by his own party (mainly those to the right of it) and their media chums to expose him and his cabinet of spivs and incompetents. He's been their 'useful idiot' and used his popularity to deliver what they wanted. Now they want someone who can actually do the job (and not to risk losing Home Counties 'safe' seats and the new 'blue wall').

(Just suppose that the BP guy had the meeting with the politicos and they agreed that he would then brief the journos (they couldn't be seen to do such a thing) about the driver problem just to pile the pressure on).

Grunt Shapps looks like a man that's heard the squeal of the brakes on the gravy train and a few others are doing Chicken Licken impersonations.

They need to do it now so that someone competent can turn things around before the next election.

(Removes conspiracy head).

[Mr. Dazzle]

They need to do it now so that someone competent

Oo's that then?

[Potter]

I called this a long time ago, it's here in a thread somewhere, I told you that if Boris becomes too socialist in his ideas and doesn't toe the line for big business and the people calling the shots, then they'd start to crush him.

The trouble with Boris, however bumbling, crass or stupid, that you think he is, he actually cares about people, - and big business (and the people running it) do not - he's also daft enough to stand up to them.

You can laugh now but Labour aren't capable of taking over and Boris is the only thing standing between you and the overlords that don't give a shit.
Better the devil you know.

[Count Steer]

They need to do it now so that someone competent

Oo's that then?

There must be some Tories in Parliament better than the cabinet shower surely? Lord help us if there isn't. The old line was that Labour get in and introduce some stuff, then the Tories get in and make the stuff work. Managing things was supposed to be a key competence, this bunch couldn't run a bath, they've been stuck on lobbing tit-bits (á la P. Patel) and sound bites to their new set of devotees. (+ building silly bridges, tunnels, handing out contracts to chums and buying yachts). They booted a shed load of experience out with people like Ken Clarke but there must be some left?

[Count Steer]

You can laugh now but Labour aren't capable of taking over and Boris is the only thing standing between you and the overlords that don't give a shit.
Better the devil you know.

a) I'm not laughing
b) Labour are currently irrelevant
c) I'm not keen on the far right option either
d) I'd like a competent new devil and cabinet imps.

[wheelnut]

I called this a long time ago, it's here in a thread somewhere, I told you that if Boris becomes too socialist in his ideas and doesn't toe the line for big business and the people calling the shots, then they'd start to crush him.

The trouble with Boris, however bumbling, crass or stupid, that you think he is, he actually cares about people, - and big business (and the people running it) do not - he's also daft enough to stand up to them.

You can laugh now but Labour aren't capable of taking over and Boris is the only thing standing between you and the overlords that don't give a shit.
Better the devil you know.

I’ve always said that deep down boris is a bit of a liberal with a slightly left twinge at heart. The trouble is that he also seems to be a populist and will blow with the wind.

[Potter]

I’ve always said that deep down boris is a bit of a liberal with a slightly left twinge at heart. The trouble is that he also seems to be a populist and will blow with the wind.

He's also got a bunch of divvies to choose from as his team.
The only saving grace is that they're not as bad as the opposition divvies.

I'm struggling to think back in my lifetime and pick out a government that were significantly better, probably Blair in the early years but that's partly because the opposition were better. I think we've reached the competency level of the current lot, but the opposition are Neanderthals in comparison so we can't expect any stimulus from there to hold them to account or push them on a bit.

Starmer is so bad you could put Theresa May as the leader of the Labour Party and she'd do a better job.

(there might be a lot of sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek in that post)

[wheelnut]

Blair pre-Iraq was ok. Cameron was ok as well, apart from the brexit debacle. Major wasn’t too bad either.

Politics seems increasingly a role for chancers and self-publicists rather than those who want actually accomplish something worthwhile or who have a vision and principles.

[Asian Boss]

So the oven ready deal, where they need us more than we need them, appears to be going well then. Form the hyper Brexity Express too.

'Brexit fury as Boris' deal an 'insult to UK sovereignty' - Britain at mercy of EU courts'.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... minic-raab

[Mussels]

So the oven ready deal, where they need us more than we need them, appears to be going well then. Form the hyper Brexity Express too.

'Brexit fury as Boris' deal an 'insult to UK sovereignty' - Britain at mercy of EU courts'.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... minic-raab

I'd be more surprised if we didn't have an extradition treaty with the EU.

[Cousin Jack]

So the oven ready deal, where they need us more than we need them, appears to be going well then. Form the hyper Brexity Express too.

'Brexit fury as Boris' deal an 'insult to UK sovereignty' - Britain at mercy of EU courts'.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... minic-raab

Express getting frothy again.

Nothing to see, move along please.

[Saga Lout]

So the oven ready deal, where they need us more than we need them, appears to be going well then. Form the hyper Brexity Express too.

'Brexit fury as Boris' deal an 'insult to UK sovereignty' - Britain at mercy of EU courts'.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... minic-raab

I didn't have you pegged as an Express reader. I guess it takes all sorts.

[Asian Boss]

Regardless of what I do or don't read; and whatever the Express says, this is what's happening.

[irie]

Regardless of what I do or don't read; and whatever the Express says, this is what's happening.

No, this describes what is happening.

https://blackfords.com/european-arrest-warrant-brexit/