The Brexit thread

[irie]

... right now we are where we are, it's clear that the driver shortage isn't caused by Brexit, it's caused by it being an unattractive job. There is now an urgency to rectify that and I don't think the best solution is immigration of people that will put up with the salary and conditions.

This.

[Horse]

What we need is self driving lorries.

I've just posted a link in the automated vehicles thread, to a new Volvo quarry truck.

It isn't just the road haulage industry that has workforce issues, those shortages are one of the issues driving (sic) automated vehicles elsewhere (agriculture is another).

[Pirahna]

... right now we are where we are, it's clear that the driver shortage isn't caused by Brexit, it's caused by it being an unattractive job. There is now an urgency to rectify that and I don't think the best solution is immigration of people that will put up with the salary and conditions.

This.

You're very pro Brexit and like anyone that says Brexit has nothing to do with it. Can you explain why the government thinks it's a good idea to relax visa restrictions brought in post Brexit?

I've not really been keeping up with Brexit related crap, but as panic buying seems the order of the day, aren't there a shed load more customs regulations due on January 1st?

[Lutin]

I've not really been keeping up with Brexit related crap, but as panic buying seems the order of the day, aren't there a shed load more customs regulations due on January 1st?

I wouldn't worry about that as Bozo will just delay them indefinitely like he has done with parts of the Northern Ireland protocol.

[Asian Boss]

I've not really been keeping up with Brexit related crap, but as panic buying seems the order of the day, aren't there a shed load more customs regulations due on January 1st?

I wouldn't worry about that as Bozo will just delay them indefinitely like he has done with parts of the Northern Ireland protocol.

That sounds like a perfect solution and a fabulous situation to find ourselves in.

[wheelnut]

... right now we are where we are, it's clear that the driver shortage isn't caused by Brexit, it's caused by it being an unattractive job. There is now an urgency to rectify that and I don't think the best solution is immigration of people that will put up with the salary and conditions.

This.

Has it suddenly become much more unattractive since brexit or is it just a coincidence?

[Cousin Jack]

I suspect the figures mean little if they are based on UK industry jobs. Pre-Brexit lots of EU trucks and drivers were tramping in the UK, but of course they were EU trucks, EU drivers and EU companies, so I doubt they appear in UK stats.
It is very noticeable that since Brexit the number of left hook trucks with foreign plates seems to have decreased.

[Horse]

It is very noticeable that since Brexit the number of left hook trucks with foreign plates seems to have decreased.

Given what else has happened in the last 19 months, with factories closed around the world and changes in shopping patterns, etc., a change in the number of left hooker trucks is hardly surprising.

Unless there's been a similar increase in the number of UK trucks, the bulk of trade is only likely to have reduced. Brexit might have affected that, but covid has probably done more.

[Pirahna]

Grant Schapps says it's Brexit related.

The Independent: Brexit has been a ‘factor’ in fuel crisis, Grant Shapps admits.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 28368.html

[Docca]

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[Horse]

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Looks like it eh, apparently I'm such a bad man, but it looks like I'm the only one paying a voluntary UK tax
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I don't claim back some that I could, so that means I'm voluntarily letting the government have more of my money. Its not a huge amount.

There are probably others here doing similar who either CBA or don't want say so.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I simply don't get people trying to sabotage something that is already in motion

Shoulda told that to the Brexiteers!

As I've said before, it's a bit of bollox anyway. You'll never know what would have happened without Brexit, outside of some dodgy sci-fi programme with a shit version of those "What if the Nazis had won WW2" storylines.

[Horse]

I don't claim back some that I could, so that means I'm voluntarily letting the government have more of my money. Its not a huge amount.

There are probably others here doing similar who either CBA or don't want say so.

I was challenged

And then said that you seemed to be the only one.

Not claiming all your tax back is mostly because people can't be bothered if the amounts are small,

In my case, a conscious decision.

[DefTrap]

I simply don't get people trying to sabotage ...

Funny how "moaning on the internet" becomes sabotage - it's exactly this sort of language that rallied the Brexit braindead from their slums.

..... I look at it in a different light, and whilst the EU is going to make it unpleasant in the shorter term, I think that the UK can make it work in the long term.

Funny how it's all still the EUs fault, despite having "taken back control". The current "crisis" is a great example of a direct consequence of a Brexit decision that wasn't mitigated by the UK government and has absolutely nothing to do with the EU stopping the UK doing anything.

We all knew that doing Brexit would be challenging and we were told "yes, we know, we don't care, it'll be worth it in the long run". But don't stick your head in the sand and ignore the issues that are staring you in the face as if you actually want to enjoy the painful process of getting there.

[Horse]

apparently I'm such a bad man, but it looks like I'm the only one paying a voluntary UK tax to help the sick and aged, so maybe I'm a communist hiding in a capitalists body

That's the bit I was replying to, not any personal challenge to you.

In my case, a conscious decision.

Based upon what?

Number of things. The point being it's not done by CBA neglect.

In comparison to national debt, government spending, wastage, etc., it's a piffling amount. But the last year I've had a pay cut, so it's a chunk of cash.

[Horse]

I was asked directly about my tax affairs,

That's the bit I was replying to, not any personal challenge to you.

I didn't take it as a personal challenge,

Make your mind up.

You seem coy now about the reasons you actively don't recover your overpaid tax, so I don't know why you bought it up.

Coy? My business, so - as you - I'm not posting it.

To point out you weren't, as you stated, the only one. I may even have said that.

Trolling, or just not keeping aware of what you're posting, or ... ?

[Horse]

'Secret'? Throw in stuff like that, and the 'fuck me' to make it my fault.

Ace.

[Horse]

I can only assume it was for nothing more than to be contrary to what I'd posted, but with no substance.

It's the internet, nothing here is substantiated.

Assume what you like

[Horse]

Seriously mate, then why post it?

I didn't say it was a lie, I said that it was unsubstantiated.

So, for clarity: I pay hundreds of pounds more uk tax than I need to.

[Count Steer]