PANIC BUY!
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People like landscape gardeners and anyone that uses plant need cans of fuel or they cant work. So it may not be just for selfish storage reasons...
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I've got a 20l can and a 5l can.DefTrap wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:18 pm Seriously who has more than a couple of 5L get-you-home jerry cans in the shed? I only have two because someone gave me one that I liked because it was a nice one marked in US gallons. The other ones I accumulated over the years (because like a twat when I actually -need- one it's miles away, so I buy another) I binned.
Some people just trawl social media waiting for picture evidence they can get riled about.
Always keep them topped up to fill up the 3 dirt bikes.
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What's the difference between paraffin and petrol? There's two Fs in paraffin, but no F in petrol...
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Must be a huge increase in landscape gardening.
DT wrote: As a result of panic-buying, fuel refiner Essar said sales volumes from its Stanlow, Northampton and Kingsbury terminals over the last weekend were up 22% against a "normal" weekend.
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You don't need everyone to buy extra fuel for the panic buying to cause a temporary shortage. You just need to alter the timing right?
Say for example you've got a garage that restocks fuel once a week. Over the course of a week their supply drops fairly consistently until they get restocked. So one tanker, once a week, can keep them open. Then say you have seven such garages. One tanker, visting each once a week, can keep seven garages open*.
If everyone suddenly buys fuel all on the same day, instead of it being spread out over a week, all seven garages will be emptied on one day. Then you might have to wait up to a week for your usual tanker to get to you and fill you up.
No extra fuel bought - but still lots of empty forecourts.
*You may meet these garages on your way to St. Ives
Say for example you've got a garage that restocks fuel once a week. Over the course of a week their supply drops fairly consistently until they get restocked. So one tanker, once a week, can keep them open. Then say you have seven such garages. One tanker, visting each once a week, can keep seven garages open*.
If everyone suddenly buys fuel all on the same day, instead of it being spread out over a week, all seven garages will be emptied on one day. Then you might have to wait up to a week for your usual tanker to get to you and fill you up.
No extra fuel bought - but still lots of empty forecourts.
*You may meet these garages on your way to St. Ives
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Yup.
I've gone from a tank of fuel a week to a tank a month since lockdown.
If I have half a tank when the news comes out of a potential supply issue but I think I have 2 weeks fuel so all is good then chances are everything is dandy.
If I and a million others like me all rush to fill that half a tank now in panic, then that's 30 litres X 1 million cars = 30 million litres of fuel demand that would otherwise have been spread out for 2 weeks in the space of 2-3 days.
Fuel like everything else now is delivered on a tight schedule of 'just in time'. But a huge spike in demand will knacker it very quickly and with no excess capacity to catch up easily. So even with calm it's gonna take a while for things to smooth out.
I've gone from a tank of fuel a week to a tank a month since lockdown.
If I have half a tank when the news comes out of a potential supply issue but I think I have 2 weeks fuel so all is good then chances are everything is dandy.
If I and a million others like me all rush to fill that half a tank now in panic, then that's 30 litres X 1 million cars = 30 million litres of fuel demand that would otherwise have been spread out for 2 weeks in the space of 2-3 days.
Fuel like everything else now is delivered on a tight schedule of 'just in time'. But a huge spike in demand will knacker it very quickly and with no excess capacity to catch up easily. So even with calm it's gonna take a while for things to smooth out.
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The local supermarket petrol station has fuel for sale, no restrictions and no queues.
There was a nasty old bastard filling up cans though.
There was a nasty old bastard filling up cans though.
To a kid looking up to me, life ain't nothing but bitches and money.
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That's a result.Asian Boss wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:38 pm The local supermarket petrol station has fuel for sale, no restrictions and no queues.
There was a nasty old bastard filling up cans though.
Looks like Boris fixed the massive crisis (that definitely wasn't short-term panic buying) in less than a week
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Does this mean truckers can go back on our "couldn't give a toss" list? (not that they ever left mine)
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Is that for the ones we still have or the ones Boris Brexited away?
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If the usual customers who buy fuel from one garage over a week, from a garage that is filled once a week, all buy it on the same day, the garage sells the same amount of fuel. If they use that fuel over a week, the garage will have been replenished by the time they need to refill.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:55 am You don't need everyone to buy extra fuel for the panic buying to cause a temporary shortage. You just need to alter the timing right?
Say for example you've got a garage that restocks fuel once a week. Over the course of a week their supply drops fairly consistently until they get restocked. So one tanker, once a week, can keep them open. Then say you have seven such garages. One tanker, visting each once a week, can keep seven garages open*.
If everyone suddenly buys fuel all on the same day, instead of it being spread out over a week, all seven garages will be emptied on one day. Then you might have to wait up to a week for your usual tanker to get to you and fill you up.
No extra fuel bought - but still lots of empty forecourts.
*You may meet these garages on your way to St. Ives
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And if it were a closed system, where the same customers always visit the same garage and buy the same amount of fuel, said situation wouldn't be a problem. It's not.slowsider wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:14 pm If the usual customers who buy fuel from one garage over a week, from a garage that is filled once a week, all buy it on the same day, the garage sells the same amount of fuel. If they use that fuel over a week, the garage will have been replenished by the time they need to refill.
That's why the UK as a whole isn't short of fuel, but local regions and specific people are.
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In general principle, I'd back them, I know what it's like doing a job away from home in crap conditions.
It wouldn't take much to get them a bit better deal if we all stuck together.
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Oi, none of your sensible argument and reasonable explanations here!Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:55 am You don't need everyone to buy extra fuel for the panic buying to cause a temporary shortage. You just need to alter the timing right?
Say for example you've got a garage that restocks fuel once a week. Over the course of a week their supply drops fairly consistently until they get restocked. So one tanker, once a week, can keep them open. Then say you have seven such garages. One tanker, visting each once a week, can keep seven garages open*.
If everyone suddenly buys fuel all on the same day, instead of it being spread out over a week, all seven garages will be emptied on one day. Then you might have to wait up to a week for your usual tanker to get to you and fill you up.
No extra fuel bought - but still lots of empty forecourts.
*You may meet these garages on your way to St. Ives
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"Vere de Norbiton"?
Is that somewhere near Trumpton and Chigley?
Is that somewhere near Trumpton and Chigley?
Even bland can be a type of character
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She's married to the head of fundraising for the conservative party, so I'd be writing back and asking what's in it for me.