The Brexit thread

[Asian Boss]

That matches my experience in the South West. I went to 3 schools in total.

The first had 100% white children, in a school of about 120 pupils.
The 2nd had exactly 2 West Indian girls in a school of about 600.
The 3rd had one mixed race boy. (his biological father was a negro US serviceman) in a school of about 350.
There were no Asians, and about half a dozen non-UK Europeans, mostly Polish.

Personally IDGAS what colour people are, but I dislike people re-writing history to suit their agenda.

Same for me.

Something like 90% (ish) of the UK is white, with the other 10% being made up of everyone else, and they tend to cluster, so one in ten people you meet might not be white, but obviously more in some places and less in others.

I think the argument though is that there has always been foreign people coming into the UK, so that shouldn't be stopped and it's a tory problem. It's poetic how left wing thinkers will literally ignore their own ideology if it means they can use anything to formulate an argument against the conservative government.

This current 'crisis' is a process that will raise wages for UK lorry drivers, but it seems the left can't even manage a few days sacrifice to allow it to happen, they're screaming for foreign workers to be allowed back in, with the result that the UK drivers won't get wage increases, UK people won't be trained under incentive schemes and conditions will stay the same.
Solidarity my arse.

Maybe the lorry drivers won't want to come back for three months, especially as they've been Brexited away once already.

[demographic]

Can someone remind me, when is the Festival of Brexit happening again?

At the moment nuclear fusion as a reliable electricity generating UK powersource* is looking like it might pay off faster.


*Not counting the sun.

[Count Steer]

Can someone remind me, when is the Festival of Brexit happening again?

We're in the 'don't mention the war' phase so festivals are out. As seen on here: 'let's not talk about it because it'll take 10 or 20 years before all the benefits are established'. I want my unicorn now!

[demographic]

Can someone remind me, when is the Festival of Brexit happening again?

We're in the 'don't mention the war' phase so festivals are out. As seen on here: 'let's not talk about it because it'll take 10 or 20 years before all the benefits are established'. I want my unicorn now!

I thought several were at the "Are you still going on about this, cos I'm rather embarrassed about what I believed and I'd rather everyone just forgot about it" stage.

[Cousin Jack]

Maybe the lorry drivers won't want to come back for three months, especially as they've been Brexited away once already.

They probably won't, and I don't blame them. The transport industry can bleat all it likes, but the real solution is decent wages, decent conditions, decent training and a career structure. Then the problem will solve itself, everything else is stop-gap measures.

[Cousin Jack]

We're in the 'don't mention the war' phase so festivals are out. As seen on here: 'let's not talk about it because it'll take 10 or 20 years before all the benefits are established'. I want my unicorn now!

Who promised you a unicorn? Did they sell you magic beans too?

[Count Steer]

We're in the 'don't mention the war' phase so festivals are out. As seen on here: 'let's not talk about it because it'll take 10 or 20 years before all the benefits are established'. I want my unicorn now!

Who promised you a unicorn? Did they sell you magic beans too?

You're telling me the magic beans aren't coming too? I mean, I'm not gullible, I knew the £350 million for the NHS was a lie but the unicorn and the magic beans too? Bugger.

[Saga Lout]

You're telling me the magic beans aren't coming too? I mean, I'm not gullible, I knew the £350 million for the NHS was a lie but the unicorn and the magic beans too? Bugger.

And welcome once again to that old chestnut: £350 million for the NHS. It's been away for a few weeks but here it is, back again as strong as ever.

[demographic]

And welcome once again to that old chestnut: £350 million for the NHS. It's been away for a few weeks but here it is, back again as strong as ever.

Who came up with that old chestnut in the first place? Do they get to decide when everyone else stops taking the piss out of the people who believed it?

Like the "We've had the vote, you lost so pipe down" argument. Surely if the people opposing Brexit seriously believed it was a bad idea then they would continue to oppose that bad idea? If they just gave up they can't have been that convinced of their opinions can they.

How many years before Brexit did you and others go on about how bad the EU was? Why on earth should people who think differently just quiet down? Cos you want them to? Nope, sorry, doesn't work like that, just like it didn't work the other way.

[slowsider]

Maybe the lorry drivers won't want to come back for three months, especially as they've been Brexited away once already.

They probably won't, and I don't blame them. The transport industry can bleat all it likes, but the real solution is decent wages, decent conditions, decent training and a career structure. Then the problem will solve itself, everything else is stop-gap measures.

There's just the issue of paying for it...

[Cousin Jack]

Maybe the lorry drivers won't want to come back for three months, especially as they've been Brexited away once already.

They probably won't, and I don't blame them. The transport industry can bleat all it likes, but the real solution is decent wages, decent conditions, decent training and a career structure. Then the problem will solve itself, everything else is stop-gap measures.

There's just the issue of paying for it...

True, but the main problem in this country is that people want everything cheap. And the only way to do that is to screw the people at the bottom of the food chain. I am not a socialist, I am a conservative, but I also recognise truth in the old saying that a workman is worthy of his hire. Markets work when they are not distorted, today a lot of them ae very distorted. Readjustment will be painful but necessary.

[Felix]

You lot ever thought of moving on before turning bitter and miserable or is that to late?

[Saga Lout]

You lot ever thought of moving on before turning bitter and miserable or is that to late?

Where's the fun in that?

[Potter]

I've seen this all my life and this is why I don't like shop floor socialists, because they'll stir shit but when crunch time comes they'll quite happily stab people in the back.

This is an opportunity to help UK drivers get better pay and conditions, but some of you are doing your absolute best to sabotage it. If you're one of the ones advocating for cheap foreign workers to come back then hang your head in shame, you're a scab and a backstabber and I hope you get that karma right back when it's your turn.

I'm from the shop floor and I know what you're like, but at least now it's not just an academic discussion, when called upon you've shown who you are, you're out in the light now.
It disgusts me and I'm glad I don't have to share a brew room with some of you.

[slowsider]

Jenny from the Block

[Nidge]

I've seen this all my life and this is why I don't like shop floor socialists, because they'll stir shit but when crunch time comes they'll quite happily stab people in the back.

This is an opportunity to help UK drivers get better pay and conditions, but some of you are doing your absolute best to sabotage it. If you're one of the ones advocating for cheap foreign workers to come back then hang your head in shame, you're a scab and a backstabber and I hope you get that karma right back when it's your turn.

I'm from the shop floor and I know what you're like, but at least now it's not just an academic discussion, when called upon you've shown who you are, you're out in the light now.
It disgusts me and I'm glad I don't have to share a brew room with some of you.

Are you equally concerned about Filipino house staff and Bangladeshi road workers in the UAE or is that cheap imported labour ok?

[Horse]

some of you are doing your absolute best to sabotage it. If you're one of the ones advocating for cheap foreign workers to come back then hang your head in shame,

I may not have read this thoroughly enough to note the details, but who here has suggested that as the only and complete solution for the current driver shortage?

[Horse]

Are you equally concerned about Filipino house staff and Bangladeshi road workers in the UAE or is that cheap imported labour ok?

No idea whether it's true, when working in Dubai I was told that there are over 140 nationalities represented in the workforce.

[Hoonercat]

I've seen this all my life and this is why I don't like shop floor socialists, because they'll stir shit but when crunch time comes they'll quite happily stab people in the back.

This is an opportunity to help UK drivers get better pay and conditions, but some of you are doing your absolute best to sabotage it. If you're one of the ones advocating for cheap foreign workers to come back then hang your head in shame, you're a scab and a backstabber and I hope you get that karma right back when it's your turn.

I'm from the shop floor and I know what you're like, but at least now it's not just an academic discussion, when called upon you've shown who you are, you're out in the light now.
It disgusts me and I'm glad I don't have to share a brew room with some of you.

They won't be cheap. Given the driver shortage and rising wages across Europe, I wouldn't be surprised if UK hauliers have to offer a financial bonus to tempt EU drivers to the UK for what will only be a few months work. Foreign drivers being paid more then UK drivers in part thanks to Brexit; the irony.

[DefTrap]

This is an opportunity to help UK drivers get better pay and conditions, but some of you are doing your absolute best to sabotage it. If you're one of the ones advocating for cheap foreign workers to come back then hang your head in shame, you're a scab and a backstabber and I hope you get that karma right back when it's your turn.

Market forces chum.

If "Proud Joe Brexit" really cared about the ideals of Brexit he'd be volunteering to drive those tankers and scrawling "we sent the buggers home, now we're keeping the buggers out" on the side. (It would need to be a big tanker, a bus would be better for slogans). Then there could be a big street party and we could win the world cup.