The Brexit thread

[wheelnut]

Trade with Germany drops off a cliff

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58484454

But at least the deals with Albania and Cameroon are on course.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-ag ... -countries

[Kneerly Down]

Trade with Germany drops off a cliff...

Funny how the BBC gives a 'since Brexit vote' for UK trade with Germany (in terms of ranking) but no context of German trade with the UK since the vote.

If it did it would show:
UK exports to Germany down c.7%
German exports to UK down c.20%

German Exports to UK

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UK Exports to Germany

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[wheelnut]

It's not since the vote, it's since the restrictions have kicked in, or do you feel that all the restrictions and red tape have improved the chances of a good trading relationship?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Do we really need another Brexit thread, FFS give it a rest and ride a motorbike

[wheelnut]

Do we really need another Brexit thread, FFS give it a rest and ride a motorbike

There's always the jokes thread if this thread offends you.

[Kneerly Down]

It's not since the vote, it's since the restrictions have kicked in, or do you feel that all the restrictions and red tape have improved the chances of a good trading relationship?

I'm not in favour of lots of restrictions and red tape, which seems to be more of an EU forte...for dealing with the other 94% of the world.
Why just since the restrictions kicked in...surely lots of businesses changed their supply chains in the last 5 years?
Of course there's also been some other slight influences on global trade in the past 6/18 months other than Brexit.

[David]

Well....Brexit....don't say I didn't warn you....


I didn't, but that's not the point....

[wheelnut]

I'm certainly not blaming all woes on Brexit, but I think it plays a key part. Like it or not, other countries have a right to dictate how they want to trade with a country, as do we. The problem is that while we want to try to bend over backwards, other EU countries want to tell us to go do one. Hey ho, we get what we asked for.

[Potter]

We're exporting less stuff to Germany but we're buying a lot less from them.

On top of that, Brexit has (allegedly) caused a shortage of UK lorry drivers, meaning that initiatives are being raised to train more of them and they'll earn more.

More UK jobs, less forrin imports.
The BBC have done a spectacular job of turning that into a scare story.

[MrLongbeard]

Ahhh well at least the Northern Irish will be able to get access to our delicious chilled meats indefinitely

[DefTrap]

I'm certainly not blaming all woes on Brexit, but I think it plays a key part. Like it or not, other countries have a right to dictate how they want to trade with a country, as do we. The problem is that while we want to try to bend over backwards, other EU countries want to tell us to go do one. Hey ho, we get what we asked for.

It doesn't matter now. I'm sure the UK and EU will get over it eventually.

We shat in our own bed on purpose and are now finding others don't want to share our own shitty bed.
But yeah the majority wanted that - you've seen what the majority looks like yeah?

[gremlin]

It doesn't matter now.

That ^

[Kneerly Down]

I'm certainly not blaming all woes on Brexit, but I think it plays a key part. Like it or not, other countries have a right to dictate how they want to trade with a country, as do we.

But we didn't. The EU decided how we traded with other countries. Now it only decides how we trade with the EU.

[Potter]

We shat in our own bed on purpose and are now finding others don't want to share our own shitty bed.

That should stop those migrant boats then.

[Kneerly Down]

The UK is so bad that, of the 3 million EU citizens living in the UK, 5 million have applied for settled status. ???

edit: 6 million now.

[KungFooBob]

If they made the scale start at zero, it wouldn't look half as bad.

[Potter]

The UK is so bad that, of the 3 million EU citizens living in the UK, 5 million have applied for settled status. ???

edit: 6 million now.

I think most of Europe has gone to shit, but it's a fact that out of the countries in the EU, the UK isn't that bad, my mate is Italian and went home when I went to the UK, we both got back and compared notes and Italy is full of problems, the UK sounded better and that's bad enough.

The whole of Europe is sick of EU bullshit and wants to take back control

[DefTrap]

I think most of Europe has gone to shit, but it's a fact that out of the countries in the EU, the UK isn't that bad, my mate is Italian and went home when I went to the UK, we both got back and compared notes and Italy is full of problems, the UK sounded better and that's bad enough.

The whole of Europe is sick of EU bullshit and wants to take back control

"Isn't that bad". Faint praise indeed. I'd like to try living in Italy too, also Spain. Germany also if they would move it further towards the Med.

Personally, 2 weeks in the UK was enough for me. I don't hate it, far from it, but it really is hard to say what puts it much above others, other than it's "mine". Still quite a lot of miserable cvnts living there, despite having evicted all the nasty, smelly immigrants. I wonder who they'll turn on next?

Absolutely the best thing about being a foreigner abroad is that you don't have to feel responsible for the opinions and mistakes of the natives. And it makes me far more exotic, natch'.

[Kneerly Down]

"Isn't that bad". Faint praise indeed. I'd like to try living in Italy too, also Spain. Germany also if they would move it further towards the Med.

In the summer months a lot of Germany moves nearer the Med.

[Hoonercat]

Trade with Germany drops off a cliff

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58484454

But at least the deals with Albania and Cameroon are on course.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-ag ... -countries

Those figures are from the German Federal Statistics Office. It's woth noting that EU countries changed the way they 'measure' UK imports at the start of the year (doesn't include imports from further afield), while the UK still counts them in the export reports, so any comparisons to trade between last year and this year given by an EU-based institution isn't really comparable.