Douwe Egberts Coffee

[DefTrap]

Us also in a Pizza Express last week, had to close early (on a Friday night) as no waiting staff.

And a few days earlier, in a pub, "sorry, no beer" they said. No. Beer. In. A. Pub.
I wonder what Joe Public thinks about that.

But yeah it's all going fine and it's all COVID's fault forever m'kay. And the BBC are hurtful beasts for mentioning it.

[Horse]

No doubt about it, it's cost more to buy ingredients, plus it's necessary to plan ahead to ensure you have them!

We do the food delivery thing with Gousto, so nearly all of out meals are made from scratch.

One of our favourite recipes calls for honey, ginger (we use paste), rice vinegar, soy sauce and miso paste

[Mr. Dazzle]

And a few days earlier, in a pub, "sorry, no beer" they said. No. Beer. In. A. Pub.
I wonder what Joe Public thinks about that.

Chip shop near me ran out of potatoes the other day

One of our favourite recipes calls for honey, ginger (we use paste), rice vinegar, soy sauce and miso paste

Reminds me of the bit on Clarkson's Farm regarding only selling local produce. "Are those Cotswold Pineapples?"

[DefTrap]

Chip shop near me ran out of potatoes the other day

Amusing that Brexit is being felt in chips and beer - like it was designed to hit the common man where it hurts.

I bet Boris and Moggs haven't run out of Grouse and Claret.

[Mussels]

The precooked stuff is healthier????

There's been a huge drive to make supermarkets sell healthier food, on the packaging there's a traffic light system to show how much fat, saturates, sugar and salt are in it. At home and more so in restaurants people add loads of stuff to make it taste better, butter, oil, salt. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if ready meals are healthier.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

How does shopping at a small independent store resolve the lack of lorry drivers problem. if anything it makes it worse because rather than the lorry going to one large store to deliver, lots of lorries now have to go to lots of small shops.

It's a local shop for local people. And local suppliers. They're not buying in bulk, warehousing centrally and delivering en masse. The entire stock would look lost in the back of a 40 footer

You've got a local producer of everything you need?

[MrLongbeard]

I wonder what Joe Public thinks about that.

If it ever happens to me I'd be sure and give it some thought.

[Horse]

And a few days earlier, in a pub, "sorry, no beer" they said. No. Beer. In. A. Pub.
I wonder what Joe Public thinks about that.

Chip shop near me ran out of potatoes the other day

In a Pizza Hut years ago. Guess what they had run out of ...

[irie]

Our ancesters spent thousands of years starving as hunter gatherers or subsistence farmers and you lot are complaining that food now is too cheap.

Not really, just pointing out what cheap foods actually cost in jobs, incomes, health etc. How much tax goes in treating obesity related illnesses caused by eating cheap junk food for example? Save with one hand, pay with the other.

I stand to be corrected, but just for starters I think that about 1 in 6 hospital beds are occupied by type 2 diabetes patients, costing the NHS about £12bn a year.

[MrLongbeard]

Our ancesters spent thousands of years starving as hunter gatherers or subsistence farmers and you lot are complaining that food now is too cheap.

Not really, just pointing out what cheap foods actually cost in jobs, incomes, health etc. How much tax goes in treating obesity related illnesses caused by eating cheap junk food for example? Save with one hand, pay with the other.

I stand to be corrected, but just for starters I think that about 1 in 6 hospital beds are occupied by type 2 diabetes patients, costing the NHS about £12bn a year.

Google and diabetes.org suggest that 1 in 6 beds are occupied by those with diabetes, but do not expand on what type of diabetes

[Mussels]

Not really, just pointing out what cheap foods actually cost in jobs, incomes, health etc. How much tax goes in treating obesity related illnesses caused by eating cheap junk food for example? Save with one hand, pay with the other.

I stand to be corrected, but just for starters I think that about 1 in 6 hospital beds are occupied by type 2 diabetes patients, costing the NHS about £12bn a year.

Google and diabetes.org suggest that 1 in 6 beds are occupied by those with diabetes, but do not expand on what type of diabetes

Or probably whether they are in for a diabetes related issue.

Apparently 5M people in the UK have diabetes, I suspect that is skewed to older people so 1 in 6 patients having it could be entirely irrelevant.

[Horse]

I suspect that is skewed to older people so 1 in 6 patients having it could be entirely irrelevant.

In my lifetime (so far), cancer has gone from a 1 in 3 likelihood to 1 in 2.

People have to die of something, so reducing - for instance - numbers of heart attack deaths will allow the opportunity to get sick with something else.

And those 1 in 6 are highly likely to have other conditions.

[Count Steer]

Government estimated figures for obesity related costs to the NHS in 2020 = £6.3 billion. Estimated costs for 'wider society' = £27bn. Projected figures for 2050 are £9.7bn and £49.9bn.

That's not just diabetes, obvs.

[Docca]

Irie is right to raise it, although I’m not sure proportionality against admissions (total) is enough. I’d be keen to see how many of those with diabetes are in a bed- perhaps compare that with other long term conditions and age etc.

Our lifestyle is too sedentary. That’s what is killing us as a society. Smoking, drinking and not moving about much.

How many fatsos are currently in a bed compared to total estate.

[slowsider]

How does shopping at a small independent store resolve the lack of lorry drivers problem. if anything it makes it worse because rather than the lorry going to one large store to deliver, lots of lorries now have to go to lots of small shops.

It's a local shop for local people. And local suppliers. They're not buying in bulk, warehousing centrally and delivering en masse. The entire stock would look lost in the back of a 40 footer

You've got a local producer of everything you need?

You've got a small independent store that supplies all you need?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

It's a local shop for local people. And local suppliers. They're not buying in bulk, warehousing centrally and delivering en masse. The entire stock would look lost in the back of a 40 footer

You've got a local producer of everything you need?

You've got a small independent store that supplies all you need?

No, it's why I go to the Supermarket, I rarely use independent shops, in my experience they treat their staff like crap and over charge their customers.

[Noggin]

The precooked stuff is healthier????

There's been a huge drive to make supermarkets sell healthier food, on the packaging there's a traffic light system to show how much fat, saturates, sugar and salt are in it. At home and more so in restaurants people add loads of stuff to make it taste better, butter, oil, salt. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if ready meals are healthier.

It may have less of some things but it will have a shit ton more of various preservatives and other chemicals! I always feel that home cooked foods without the added chemicals are way better.

But, myabe not

[Count Steer]

The precooked stuff is healthier????

There's been a huge drive to make supermarkets sell healthier food, on the packaging there's a traffic light system to show how much fat, saturates, sugar and salt are in it. At home and more so in restaurants people add loads of stuff to make it taste better, butter, oil, salt. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if ready meals are healthier.

It may have less of some things but it will have a shit ton more of various preservatives and other chemicals! I always feel that home cooked foods without the added chemicals are way better.

But, myabe not

The traffic light system only tells you whats in a product. It clearly doesn't reduce anything and I'm not aware that, legally, they have to limit anything (yet). I also think it's been shown how little notice people generally take of either that or the ingredients list. Chances are, if you're buying an 80p pizza you don't care much that the cheese is synthetic, the dough has a shelf life of two weeks and it has enough salt in to turn your innards saline, you don't actually care.

Some pre-prepped food is fine, some isn't. Some home cooked food is fine, some isn't*...but you can be pretty sure you know what's in it.

*Yay! Chips tomorrow

[Mr. Dazzle]

I believe sugar is legally limited / controlled / taxed now. I only say that 'cause I've noticed soft drinks now often have loads less sugar and loads more artificial sweetener. I cannot stand the taste of artificial sweetener, it ruins any drink for me. Thus on the once-in-a-blue-moon occasions I drink coke and the like the only thing I'll drink is full fat Coca-Cola 'cause it's still got 100% real sugar. Everything else now tastes like arse to me.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Everything else now tastes like arse to me.

How do you know what arse tastes like?
Is it stocked by your local independent store, who gets it from a local supplier?