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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

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They could tax more on any electricity over a certain quantity. I.e. assume a 'reasonble' figure for household consumption and then say anything over that is charging. Or lighting a grow room.

Double whammy effect 'cause it encourages you to use less overall.

Or you only tax electricity that's going into a higher power wall charger and use a smart meter in said charger.
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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

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Or you could increase road tax to a point where it covers the revenue lost from fuel duty - it'll be unfair on low mileage users, but why would the government care about that.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:47 pm Or you could increase road tax to a point where it covers the revenue lost from fuel duty - it'll be unfair on low mileage users, but why would the government care about that.
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Count Steer wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:39 pm I can't see how taxing the roadside supply impacts all those that charge up at home* and they'll want a pound of flesh from them. Can they distinguish what's used for cooking/heating....without forcing you to put in a second meter?
Our 'smart meter' logs gas and electric use. It wouldn't be too difficult to fit a similar system.

But it's a good question, I'll ask around (unless Dazzle knows?).
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So it turns out I’m entitled to a free fast wall charger and they will installing this ( for free) next week. That’s good news.

Reckon with the 7pin charge should get a decent amount of juice in 40 minutes.
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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

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Ford have driven all the way from Lands End to John O'Groats in a stock Mustang Mach E only stopping once.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/electr ... ords/44643

More than 800 miles with a single 45 min charge at a public high power charger at J27 of the M6.

Obviously has to be taken with a pinch of salt, but it is only a pinch.
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I'd want to know a lot more detail about the trip. How long did it take? What the weather was like? How many drivers? And more.
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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:55 pm Ford have driven all the way from Lands End to John O'Groats in a stock Mustang Mach E only stopping once.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/electr ... ords/44643

More than 800 miles with a single 45 min charge at a public high power charger at J27 of the M6.

Obviously has to be taken with a pinch of salt, but it is only a pinch.
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cheb wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:56 pm I'd want to know a lot more detail about the trip. How long did it take? What the weather was like? How many drivers? And more.
The link says:
July, and "Ford employed the services of drivers with petrol and diesel economy records already on their CV"

Elsewhere:
"The electric performance SUV was driven by BBC transport correspondent Paul Clifton and Fergal McGrath and Kevin Brooker,"

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An average of 32mph. It smells fishy but possible given Tesla do much better at speed than European EVs.
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Mussels wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:35 pm An average of 32mph. It smells fishy but possible given Tesla do much better at speed than European EVs.
Google says, right now, 14hrs 21 mins, or thereabouts.

So what concerns you about a much slower time?
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Can we take a moment to be distressed over the fact Ford put a Mustang badge on that monstrosity.
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KungFooBob wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:58 pm Can we take a moment to be distressed over the fact Ford put a Mustang badge on that monstrosity.
Saw one in the flesh. :thumbdown:
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Horse wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:55 pm
Mussels wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:35 pm An average of 32mph. It smells fishy but possible given Tesla do much better at speed than European EVs.
Google says, right now, 14hrs 21 mins, or thereabouts.

So what concerns you about a much slower time?
The price of an overnight hotel for starters. Squeezing the most range isn't that important, I wonder how quickly they could do it including charging time.
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Mussels wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:50 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:55 pm
Mussels wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:35 pm It smells fishy
So what concerns you about a much slower time?
The price of an overnight hotel for starters. Squeezing the most range isn't that important, I wonder how quickly they could do it including charging time.
You want a hotel to not smell fishy? What? :wtf:

Anyway, you need Dazzle to answer questions about the balance between speed and refueling.
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Given than it only took 45 mins to charge it up again I'd have thought you could do it quicker, with more stops. I don't think that was the point of the exercise though.

Porsche have done some similar stuff with the Taycan, but with more focus on going fast and charging.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/38986/por ... -track-run
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This isn't exactly electric car related but its climate control and covers a bit about "Clean Hydrogen" production.
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Nordboy wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:00 pm So, I can potentially retire in just over 4 years. I bought my 5 series last year brand new, only the 2nd new car ever.

I'd really like to go electric next time, but tbh, I just can't see me being able to afford one. For anything with half decent range and power, you're currently looking at easily £45k plus. The new Kia ev6 is going to be £50k for the more powerful version, for a Kia?

The last thing I want to be doing is spending a large chuck of my monthly income on an electric car. I may well just end up keeping my 5 series for many years after the supposed 2030 cut off date. Not that I actually think that will happen, I think it'll get delayed by 5 or 10 years.

My only worry with that plan is what the price of petrol and excise licence will end up being, making my car uneconomical (it's a 540i). At this stage, I don't know what I'm going to do?

Probably a large compromise, lose a load of power, luxury and range.
Once you retire why will you actually need a car at all? I don't plan on having 2 cars in the house by then. Maybe an ebike but deffo a motorbike and then 1 car we both use.
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weeksy wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:32 am
Once you retire why will you actually need a car at all?
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weeksy wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:32 am
Nordboy wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:00 pm So, I can potentially retire in just over 4 years. I bought my 5 series last year brand new, only the 2nd new car ever.

I'd really like to go electric next time, but tbh, I just can't see me being able to afford one. For anything with half decent range and power, you're currently looking at easily £45k plus. The new Kia ev6 is going to be £50k for the more powerful version, for a Kia?

The last thing I want to be doing is spending a large chuck of my monthly income on an electric car. I may well just end up keeping my 5 series for many years after the supposed 2030 cut off date. Not that I actually think that will happen, I think it'll get delayed by 5 or 10 years.

My only worry with that plan is what the price of petrol and excise licence will end up being, making my car uneconomical (it's a 540i). At this stage, I don't know what I'm going to do?

Probably a large compromise, lose a load of power, luxury and range.
Once you retire why will you actually need a car at all? I don't plan on having 2 cars in the house by then. Maybe an ebike but deffo a motorbike and then 1 car we both use.
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