Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[Count Steer]

It's endemic, you can only dodge it for so long ...

Having been jabbed some time ago ye olde antibodies are probably flagging so I think I'll keep dodging until the booster jabs get dished out. That should also take me up to flu jab time (already booked at Boots 'cos our health centre appears to be on furlough).

[derek badger]

Day 4. Don't feel quite as bad as yesterday where I actually had to call in sick as I couldn't focus physically or mentally. Slept better last night as I took some Diphenhydramine.

Headache and sinus pains are not as bad, but still painful.

Runny bum and persistent cough still continue. Not a great combination as our washing machine can confirm.

Sore throat is a new symptom this morning, but could be from sleeping with my mouth open due to blocked sinuses.

Still feel like someone has been punching me in the back, kidneys and legs. Everything physical is an effort.

And as expected I've now lost my sense of smell and taste, a can of Coke was like drinking Perrier and eating my cornflakes was weird. Genuinely freaked me out.

Hoping to do a few hours work and help out with the kids today, at least I've no breathing issues and the rest of the house has recovered pretty much. The wife still has no sense of taste...but you knew that as she married me.

[Count Steer]

Day 4. Don't feel quite as bad as yesterday where I actually had to call in sick as I couldn't focus physically or mentally. Slept better last night as I took some Diphenhydramine.

Headache and sinus pains are not as bad, but still painful.

Runny bum and persistent cough still continue. Not a great combination as our washing machine can confirm.

Sore throat is a new symptom this morning, but could be from sleeping with my mouth open due to blocked sinuses.

Still feel like someone has been punching me in the back, kidneys and legs. Everything physical is an effort.
etc etc!!

Strewth! Were you double jabbed too? Do you know which variant?
As you're in the Surrey Hills be a good chap and paint a red X on your front door eh?

[Noggin]

Trying to convince the Gremlinette to go 'Grab-a-jab' to make travel a bit easier.
'Fear of needles' is being punted as an excuse, despite two tattoos and piercings too. FFS.

TBF, I've had quite a few piercings over the years and needles for vaccines or blood tests still freak me out!! I never had tattoos mainly because the 'machine' sounds like a dentists drill, which, when added to the needle fear made me walk away, fast!! LOL I've never worked out why medical needles freak me out so much more than piercing needles?

Maybe the situation or, that if you tell a piercer that you are afraid of needles, they make sure to work so you don't see it!!

Medical people have been known to waft the needle around in full view before and after use. Not conducive to keeping me upright!! The worst was the nurse that asked me to put my finger over the entry point as she pulled the needle out I did fall off the chair that time


However - despite my fear of needles, it wouldn't stop me having vaccines. It freaked me out and I did struggle to deal with it. But it is doable!

Surely if she works in a restaurant they would need her to be vaccinated? (Don't know what the rules are over there)

[derek badger]

Day 4. Don't feel quite as bad as yesterday where I actually had to call in sick as I couldn't focus physically or mentally. Slept better last night as I took some Diphenhydramine.

Headache and sinus pains are not as bad, but still painful.

Runny bum and persistent cough still continue. Not a great combination as our washing machine can confirm.

Sore throat is a new symptom this morning, but could be from sleeping with my mouth open due to blocked sinuses.

Still feel like someone has been punching me in the back, kidneys and legs. Everything physical is an effort.
etc etc!!

Strewth! Were you double jabbed too? Do you know which variant?
As you're in the Surrey Hills be a good chap and paint a red X on your front door eh?

AZ jabs, 1st one in April 2nd one was June. The wife had Pfizer, she's not suffered half as bad.

[Count Steer]

AZ jabs, 1st one in April 2nd one was June. The wife had Pfizer, she's not suffered half as bad.

Well GWS. It's a bit of a wake-up call if we were all thinking that being jabbed meant everyone just gets a runny nose at feels a bit ick for a couple of days. Your symptoms sound like some of the 'not jabbed' ones when the whole thing kicked off.

[derek badger]

AZ jabs, 1st one in April 2nd one was June. The wife had Pfizer, she's not suffered half as bad.

Well GWS. It's a bit of a wake-up call if we were all thinking that being jabbed meant everyone just gets a runny nose at feels a bit ick for a couple of days. Your symptoms sound like some of the 'not jabbed' ones when the whole thing kicked off.

Cheers fella. I'm just glad that only one of the kids suffered, the other two had no symptoms despite returning positive PCR tests.

[Horse]

AZ jabs, 1st one in April 2nd one was June. The wife had Pfizer, she's not suffered half as bad.

Well GWS. It's a bit of a wake-up call if we were all thinking that being jabbed meant everyone just gets a runny nose at feels a bit ick for a couple of days. Your symptoms sound like some of the 'not jabbed' ones when the whole thing kicked off.

From news reports and reading stuff like 'no more surgeons', vaccination does seem to reduce severity so less need for hospitalisation (of which some need high dependancy care, and some of those die).

[DefTrap]

No real incentive for the remainder unvaccinated to get vaccinated is there?
The vulnerable have been done if they wanted.
The young have either already had covid or aren't that bothered by the consequences, having seen all their peers have the sniffles a few days.
The antivaxxers who didn't die (the majority) have been proven right, in their heads.
Plus the UK has opened up and its knees ups in pubs and taipans garden.

[Horse]

https://www.nomoresurgeons.com/post/time-out

A recent study of the vaccinated UK population has confirmed just how much the Delta variant has blunted the effectiveness of both the the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines. However, it appears that the Government’s decision to extend the time period between the first and second doses of both vaccines was the right one; immunity appears improved as a result. Also of interest was the fact that, whilst the Pfizer vaccine is initially superior, there appears to be no difference between the effectiveness of either vaccine after five months. These facts may explain why we are doing better than other vaccinated nations such as Israel.


Unfortunately, the study showed that vaccinated people who catch COVID-19 still shed the same amount of virus when coughing and sneezing as unvaccinated people do. Sadly this is another nail in the coffin for herd immunity. It means that the virus will continue to circulate and will ultimately find its way to those who are not vaccinated.

[Count Steer]

AZ jabs, 1st one in April 2nd one was June. The wife had Pfizer, she's not suffered half as bad.

Well GWS. It's a bit of a wake-up call if we were all thinking that being jabbed meant everyone just gets a runny nose at feels a bit ick for a couple of days. Your symptoms sound like some of the 'not jabbed' ones when the whole thing kicked off.

From news reports and reading stuff like 'no more surgeons', vaccination does seem to reduce severity so less need for hospitalisation (of which some need high dependancy care, and some of those die).

Doesn't change my point though Hoss. Pre-vaccine the symptoms range from symptom free, through ill, to dead. Post vaccine the symptoms range from......the same. It's just that the distribution curve has been pushed to the left. Which underlines the need to get vaccinated. Which curve would you rather randomly land on? DBs symptoms indicate it's better not to be exposed to the virus even when vaccinated.

[Mussels]

I'll carry on avoiding crowded places, that only really affects work stuff as they love crowded pubs. I can't expect my kids to avoid social settings unless I want them still living at home after I retire, I'd rather risk covid.

Having kids isn't very compatible with looking after elderly parents in covid times.

[Horse]

Unfortunately, as others have said, it seems that - sooner or later - we will all get it.

That quote emphasises your 'where on the [previous ] curve' point, the vaccines appear to move people out of the red zone, creating a second distribution.

What we don't know is how well we have individually reacted to vaccination and how long that will persist.

[Yambo]

I've been vaccinated against lots of diseases, polio, smallpox, yellow fever to name some and I've never been afflicted with anything that I've been vaccinated against.

I've had 2 vaccinations for covid but I'm still, apparently, likely to catch it and possibly suffer some or all of the symptoms.

Has the word 'vaccine' changed its meaning like some other English words like gay, wicked, racist etc? Will gender fluidity make me safer?

[Horse]

You make a good point. Perhaps we should be more specific about which variant the vaccine was developed 'against' and that partial protection against other variants is a bonus?

IIRC the annual flu jab only targets (a best guess from those circulating) three variants.

[Count Steer]

Unfortunately, as others have said, it seems that - sooner or later - we will all get it.

That quote emphasises your 'where on the [previous ] curve' point, the vaccines appear to move people out of the red zone, creating a second distribution.

What we don't know is how well we have individually reacted to vaccination and how long that will persist.

Still doesn't change my points though, get jabbed, try to avoid getting infected because it can still make you ill (and help spread it to others who may get very ill). Get a booster when available. Endemic, schmendemic, it doesn't mean that I'm in a hurry to get it. I'll admit that it's a lot easier for me to take evasive action than many others so I won't be getting on planes, trains or buses or dancing in the mosh pit at any gigs for a while. (Or going to any barbecues in Essex).

[Horse]

Not disagreeing. We are avoiding as many 'infection opportunities' as is reasonable, with testing before them (by us and others where feasible).

[Supermofo]

Mate of mine also double jabbed got the covid last week it seems. His wife is not jabbed at all. Seems symptoms are exactly the same but he is starting to feel better quicker...he thinks. Still not out of the woods.

This vaccine doesn't seem to be any good at stopping you getting it although does seem to be stopping hospitalisation and death which is good at least.

[wheelnut]

Under 16s not to be routinely vaccinated as risks outweigh the benefits

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi ... ung-people

[Taipan]

Looking at the state of my anti vaccination sister and her boyfriend, I’m damn glad I had the jab! I would not want to have gone through what they did! 4.4 million dead from Covid won’t lessen their anti vaccination stance now for sure.