Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[gremlin]

I still think that seems daft though.

You're right. The catering has been a fucking nightmare for that many people.

[gremlin]

Life's for livin', innit?

Unless you're on a ventilator and being fed with a spoon.

There are any number of things that could lead to either one of us being fed pureed dinners for the rest of our lives, such as careering around on dangerous motorbikes. We both have a choice on how we assess and mitigate risk, mine is different to yours, but we can agree to disagree.

I'll even save you a vol-au-vent.

[Supermofo]

How fucking big was your get together? You seem to have infected half of Essex for a BBQ?

We have c. 50 people round ours for a piss up next Saturday. All consenting adults and I'm not going to start asking people if they've been jabbed or not before letting them in.


Life's for livin', innit?

I never asked you to.

I still think that seems daft though.

Not sure where I sit on this at the moment, but for how long do we limit seeing people? This could be us forever now so do we go back to how it was and risk getting ill or limit seeing people forever. Plus as I said my kids will see a minimum of 50 odd kids tomorrow.

I've not been to a gig since Jan 2020. The longest since I was 12. Currently I've no desire to go to one as basically I'm chicken shit about a room full of that many people. But I have a weekend gig thing that was moved from Nov 2020 to Nov 2021. At the moment I'm nominally going as I paid for it 2 years ago but I'm undecided. My gut says lose the money and don't go. But equally this could be the new normal so do I want to never go to a gig again? Honestly don't know.

[millemille]

Life's for livin', innit?

Unless you're on a ventilator and being fed with a spoon.

There are any number of things that could lead to either one of us being fed pureed dinners for the rest of our lives, such as careering around on dangerous motorbikes. We both have a choice on how we assess and mitigate risk, mine is different to yours, but we can agree to disagree.

I'll even save you a vol-au-vent.

Absolutely this.

I can't see the situation in the UK getting significantly better than it is now with regards to COVID and as far as I'm concerned life is for living, not cowering away from. No mask wearing here unless in an environment where it would expose those who are vulnerable and have no choice but to be there (hospital, GP surgery, care/nursing home etc.), socialising and eating out/going to the pub etc. as I did 18 months ago.

Life is back to how it was before anyone knew COVID existed.

[weeksy]

It's going to come down to personal preference of course. I wouldn''t attend a gig in the same way i wouldn't attend a football match, i also wouldn't do a busy pub.

I would though do a restaurant and an outdoor pub....

we're all different though and all our requirements will differ, some of the things i do like throwing myself on a bicycle down a hill, others would frown upon but i think it's fine.

[irie]

Seems that currently about 1 in 70* of the English population have Covid so it's working it's way through the population, vaccinated or not, but the vax dodgers are getting hit pretty hard with the fully vaccinated at far lower risk of illness serious enough to require hospitalisation.

It's almost like a free antibody top up IYSWIM.

* https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/englan ... 021-08-27/

LONDON, Aug 27 (Reuters) - The prevalence of COVID-19 infections in England was around 1 in 70 people in the week ending Aug. 20, Britain's Office for National Statistics (ONS)** said on Friday, compared with the previous week's estimate of 1 in 80.

** https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... stinsights

[Supermofo]

It's almost like a free antibody top up IYSWIM.

I saw some professor or other saying the same thing on twitter the other day. Although IHO he said that catching it was in some ways better than a booster but (a big but) there is a risk of getting it bad. He was essentially saying we were moving to endemic stage with either boosters or illness cycles seeing us less vulnerable over time.

[Noggin]

It's going to come down to personal preference of course. I wouldn''t attend a gig in the same way i wouldn't attend a football match, i also wouldn't do a busy pub.

I would though do a restaurant and an outdoor pub....

we're all different though and all our requirements will differ, some of the things i do like throwing myself on a bicycle down a hill, others would frown upon but i think it's fine.

This is how I've looked at it for a while. But then yesterday I was sat at an outdoor cafe. Out of all the empty and downwind tables, someone decided to sit at the only table upwind and right next to mine. She then proceeded to use her vape and puff some really nasty smelling vapour in my direction (Not necessarily deliberately, like I said, she did sit on the only upwind table!!)

I moved because, damn that vape stuff was rank!! But a while later (after a comment on FB) I thought that I was actually breathing in air that had been in her lungs. So, IF she happened to be positive/carrying, I'd be breathing in Covid laden vapour.

Ok, vaping is a bit different to normal breathing cos most people seem to blow the vapour out whereas breathing is more gentle (normally!!)

But at what point do we change Everything. Our tables weren't particularly close and our chairs were probably more than 2.5m apart. Yes, that means the two back to back chairs are closer together, but facing from each other. And its set up to follow legal stuff here

I still wouldn't be keen to do an indoor aprés, but outdoor (if it goes ahead) doesn't leave any more room, it's just outdoors. So is it actually any safer?

I guess that up here I don't really have to think about it much for a few more months. But, whilst I'm double jabbed, I'm not blase about all this. Equally, I don't really know what to do to be safer - I'm really suffering from not seeing people (kinda normal not to see people up here in interseason and a bit in the summer, but mentally this year its a problem), so I can't imagine I can continue like this much longer


It is a really tough situation and I guess all we can do is what works for us without being irresponsible for others - so, a big BBQ is ok if everyone knows it's going to have a lot of people?

[gremlin]

It is a really tough situation and I guess all we can do is what works for us without being irresponsible for others - so, a big BBQ is ok if everyone knows it's going to have a lot of people?

We're all adults* and it's up to each of us to work out our tolerance of risk vs. reward. You've said yourself your mental health is struggling. How long can you stand that and at what risk to your well-being? I'm not advocating licking random strangers on their sweaty foreheads, but doing the things you enjoy is not a luxury in life, but a fundamental part of it. Crack on with living.
Everything you do has an element of risk attached, so make sensible choices you're happy with and be mindful of others, just like you did prior to covid. Job jobbed.

Just my aimless ramblings....



*Apart from kids

[Taipan]

TBH I was far more worried the first time we went to a beer garden. It was table ordering only and supposed to wear masks when walking about, most youngsters weren’t. Will probably go to a beer garden more often now. I think it’s something we’re just going to have to live, or die, with.

[gremlin]

TBH I was far more worried the first time we went to a beer garden. It was table ordering only and supposed to wear masks when walking about, most youngsters weren’t. Will probably go to a beer garden more often now. I think it’s something we’re just going to have to live, or die, with.

Yeah...could you wipe down the keyboard and screen there, buddy? Just to be safe like...

>steps back from the one known as the 'Essex Superspreader'<

[Noggin]

It is a really tough situation and I guess all we can do is what works for us without being irresponsible for others - so, a big BBQ is ok if everyone knows it's going to have a lot of people?

We're all adults* and it's up to each of us to work out our tolerance of risk vs. reward. You've said yourself your mental health is struggling. How long can you stand that and at what risk to your well-being? I'm not advocating licking random strangers on their sweaty foreheads, but doing the things you enjoy is not a luxury in life, but a fundamental part of it. Crack on with living.
Everything you do has an element of risk attached, so make sensible choices you're happy with and be mindful of others, just like you did prior to covid. Job jobbed.

Just my aimless ramblings....



*Apart from kids

Oh that's what I was trying to say, not very well!! My situation is weird in that there isn't a social scene as such for the next 3 months. So I can't do much socially. But in the winter, well, I might avoid any madness of Apres - but I have mostly done that since I bust my shoulder anyway. But I miss the bar/cafe/resto social scene - and it isn't around till December anyway!!

But I do think that as long as we aren't licking random strangers (or windows!) then we just have to take some care - for others as much as ourselves. A good friend that worked here for the summer was quarantined in her room for ten days because she caught covid (from kids on holiday in the centre she worked at) but she was double jabbed

It's about making the risk assessment that works for you and then behave in a way that doesn't cause too much risk to others (anti vax peeps are not on my preferred 'meet for coffee' list!!)


PS - long times since anyone's called me an adult!!

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

How fucking big was your get together? You seem to have infected half of Essex for a BBQ?

We have c. 50 people round ours for a piss up next Saturday. All consenting adults and I'm not going to start asking people if they've been jabbed or not before letting them in.


Life's for livin', innit?

How many are going to be swapping spit and cross pollinating?

[Supermofo]

'Essex Superspreader'<

Not googling that at work!

[gremlin]

How many are going to be swapping spit and cross pollinating?

Well I'm not planning on swapping spit with anybody, ta very much. Apart from the missus, if I don't drink too much.

If by 'cross pollination' you mean giving each other the Chinese lurgey, I have no idea. As I said, we're all adults and know the risks. Same as getting pissed and falling down and cracking your skull open. Or stepping in front a of bus when walking home.

Tell ya one thing though, we'll all have a fecking great time in the process.

[irie]

Large crowds of humans are wretched places to be.

Agreed.

[gremlin]

You people is weird. No concerts, street parties, house parties, gigs, etc?

[irie]

How fucking big was your get together? You seem to have infected half of Essex for a BBQ?

We have c. 50 people round ours for a piss up next Saturday. All consenting adults and I'm not going to start asking people if they've been jabbed or not before letting them in.


Life's for livin', innit?

I never asked you to.

I still think that seems daft though.

It's endemic, you can only dodge it for so long ...

[DefTrap]

I've been gadding about all week.
No tongues or shagging but certainly closer than 2m while unmasked, and shaking hands like it was Christmas.

Covid has put things into perspective for me. Life is for living but dying unnecessarily would be a shame.

[gremlin]

Trying to convince the Gremlinette to go 'Grab-a-jab' to make travel a bit easier.
'Fear of needles' is being punted as an excuse, despite two tattoos and piercings too. FFS.