MCN : HONDA X-ADV (2021 - on) Review

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MCN : HONDA X-ADV (2021 - on) Review

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https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-rev ... -adv/2021/

Must admit, i'm not getting this one at all.

£11,000 and 236kg...58bhp.... i can't see why.. at all.

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Although undoubtedly a Marmite bike, there is something strangely appealing about the Honda X-ADV. It’s not an off-roader, not by a long stretch, but it is a cool-looking super-scoot that is fun to ride and also practical (for mainly solo riders).

The big sticking point is the price tag, however if you are into maxi-scooters but don’t want a 'traditional' scooter look the X-ADV is your only option to be different. If we are being picky an IMU would have been nice, and a better connectivity system, but really that’s about it aside from maybe heated grips and cruise control.

If you like the idea of an SUV scooter, the X-ADV won’t disappoint. Believe it or not, 32,000 have been sold to date and in 2019 it was Honda’s second best-selling bike – so it certainly appeals to a lot of riders.

Under the 2021 Honda X-ADV’s bodywork lurks an all-new chassis that helps trim 1kg off the bike’s wet weight while also increasing (marginally) the underseat storage. The geometry is unchanged and so is the X-ADV’s wheelbase, so it handles like the old bike and the 3kg total saving over the outgoing version is negligible.

On the road the X-ADV is surprisingly agile and sure-footed in bends (helped by its fat tyres) and its radial brakes deliver more than enough bite. Off-road? Well, don’t let its looks deceive you, that’s not really its speciality...

Although the Honda’s parallel twin remains the same 745cc capacity as before, changes to the valve timing sees it gain 4bhp as well as Euro5-compliance while the DCT’s gearbox’s first three ratios are lower and the final three taller. So in theory that’s more poke when you need it and better economy once you are up to speed.

Not a radical change, you spot the extra acceleration in ‘Sport’ mode or using the manual gearchange option but it is when overtaking at 50-60mph that it is most noticeable. When the DCT ‘kicks down’ to get an extra zap of speed in response to a wide throttle opening, third gear is sprightlier than before, giving far better acceleration than fourth and making overtakes much faster as a result.
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£11k is bonkers when the NC750X DCT is a smidge under £8k.
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And yet...if I'm reading that correctly, its Honda's second best selling bike?

Guessing they sell as bikes for transport, rather than as bikes for fun.
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Crazy pricing! :crazy: If these were belt/shaft drive, I'd be tempted by an older model, but can't see any advantage of my NCX tbh.
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If I needed a scooter to commute I’d have one I think they’re ace 👍
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Is it an exchange rate thing?
Can't say I've been keeping up with it recently other than my tools from a German manufacturer have fairly gone up.
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It's an overgrown Yamaha BW's that weighs not much less than a Pan European.

Hell no!
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Apparently they are HUGE in Spain.

And one of the most-stolen bikes (in terms of % stolen vs number sold) in London.
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:46 pm Apparently they are HUGE in Spain.

And one of the most-stolen bikes (in terms of % stolen vs number sold) in London.
Macchet had his nicked...
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Taipan wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:22 am
The Spin Doctor wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:46 pm Apparently they are HUGE in Spain.

And one of the most-stolen bikes (in terms of % stolen vs number sold) in London.
Macchet had his nicked...
I did indeed bastards. So yesterday I dropped a deposit on another unregistered one 2019 model with £900 off the rrp and its matt camouflage so the theiving bastards won't be able to find it. 🤪
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The Spin Doctor wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:46 pm Apparently they are HUGE in Spain.

I saw one today. They are just the same size :)
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t looks like someone's taken a Crossrunner and hydraulically pressed the area from behind the steering head to the front of the seat from above. I guess it's a C90 on steroids for the post-Millenial generation.
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I parked next to one of the older ones of these yesterday. Whilst I still wish it was belt or shaft drive, its now firmly back on my next bike list. Its basically a slightly bigger, more powerful (just), version of my engine is a more compact bike. Must be a right hoot chucking one of them about round town!
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With knobblies and a bash plate I’d happily take that down most of the peaks green lanes. It would be a good day out tbh 👍
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Can't see why people get so hung up about weight. The long way down was done on an R1150gs which is 229kg on its own. This man chucks a 240kg Ktm around like a child's toy. It's all about the balance. I would happily take the Xadv down green lanes and having owned one they are surprisingly good
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I understand the suspension is a cut above the NC's, for starters. But £11k is a lot of spondulix.
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maccecht wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:59 pm Can't see why people get so hung up about weight. The long way down was done on an R1150gs which is 229kg on its own. This man chucks a 240kg Ktm around like a child's toy. It's all about the balance. I would happily take the Xadv down green lanes and having owned one they are surprisingly good
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Because it takes force to move mass. More mass means more force needed.

You can disguise it with wider bars but ultimately lighter bikes are easier to manoeuvre.

As a courier - when I was regularly 10 or 12 hours in the saddle - I found lighter bikes much less fatiguing to ride.

Plus I've rescued a crashing 125kg bike with a hefty application of size nine when the front tyre let go after I was too enthusiastic on a wet roundabout. I doubt I'd succeed with one weighing nearly twice that!
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