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Re: Are vans better offroad than cars ?

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Well for now i've gone with the sensible choice and moved some cash into the 'shit car' fund just in case it has any issues.

I've ordered 2 new front tyres as one is very low, the other isn't exactly brand new. So the QQ will be heading to the Alps in a few weeks.
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And there was me just about to chuck this in the pot...

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So at the weekend we did another event.. car had the 2 new https://www.michelin.co.uk/auto/tyres/m ... -primacy-4

fitted the day before and were happy... Although they didn't massively quieten the car as i'd slightly hoped.... but i think it's just a slightly noisy car on the road. But i did find myself questioning what a van/something would bring to the discussion.

The only thing really it would have brought was 'somewhere to sit and eat lunch' and to do that it would have to be the Vito Dualiner more than the van itself.

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It seems you can flip the rear seats quickly, so they're facing into the van space, which would give a huge area for lunch... But as to whether that's worth £11000 to me, is very much open to debate at the moment. As i say though, doing it in the car works well enough certainly in summer.. i don't know if winter will change that though when it's wet, messy and horrible.
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Re: Are vans better offroad than cars ?

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You could eat lunch in a £100 Gazebo
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:37 am You could eat lunch in a £100 Gazebo
Doesn't fit in the QQ lol.

Well it does... but i had multiple teens in the car which means i couldn't get the gazebo in.
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You could add a bit of style and space to the QQ by fitting a roof box :)
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Sounds to me that what you need is something like the QQ but bigger so that you can get all the stuff you want to take in it.
The trouble with commercial vehicles is that cheaper ones are generally knackered and decent ones are expensive
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:02 am Sounds to me that what you need is something like the QQ but bigger so that you can get all the stuff you want to take in it.
The trouble with commercial vehicles is that cheaper ones are generally knackered and decent ones are expensive
Yeah that's why i was looking at the Q5 and the CRV... they're both a step up in terms of size and 'plushness' too. Both tick a lot of boxes... but... dunno.

I viewed this about 4-6 weeks ago, it's now been dropped by a chunk in price, i guess because it's not sold. It's getting into 'decent VFM' sort of now...

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Before I bought a van I looked for cars with extra big boots and there's not much in it, I'd stick the gazebo on roof bars, then you may want a roof box alongside it. If that's still not enough room then no car will be enough, revaluate how much stuff you need to take or decide a van is worth buying.
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Mussels wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:43 am Before I bought a van I looked for cars with extra big boots and there's not much in it, I'd stick the gazebo on roof bars, then you may want a roof box alongside it. If that's still not enough room then no car will be enough, revaluate how much stuff you need to take or decide a van is worth buying.
I don't have roof bar sides, but it's far from a terrible shout i must admit...
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Cant see that CR-V solving much. I reckon you'd be better with a bigger MPV like an S-max, Previa, Espace etc. You can take the last row of seats out,, or both rows, to get loads of room.
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Taipan wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:52 am Cant see that CR-V solving much. I reckon you'd be better with a bigger MPV like an S-max, Previa, Espace etc. You can take the last row of seats out,, or both rows, to get loads of room.
Unless we're putting the bikes IN the car, we don't need LOADS more room.... we just need 4-5" more really for Gazebo and spare wheels etc.. We can just about get the gazebo in straight on, but it means putting his seat too far forward. So it goes in at an angle for now, but that makes the loading side of things a bit of a pain.... but honestly i'm being a little picky here.
A lot of my pickiness is because I simply don't really like the QQ, it's an OK place to be and comfortable enough, but it doesn't drive 'nicely' in some ways and the road noise is a little on the high side.... the other aspect is the diesel side of things, which again isn't my favourite due to DPF/EGR stuff, but that was my own mistake when purchasing the QQ this time, i should have gone petrol.
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Most SUVs are road noisy, you might prefer something more road biased, a Mondeo estate springs to mind.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:23 am Most SUVs are road noisy, you might prefer something more road biased, a Mondeo estate springs to mind.
Mondeos have struggled slightly in terms of terrain. The reason being, they're properly long and low. Some of the trails/lanes we go down are ridiculous and with the Mondeo also having a low slung towbar, it did cause us issues getting in and out of places. We almost/did ground out a couple of times... Hence why i sold the previous Mondeo. The QQ has much better ground clearance and a shorter wheelbase which negates those issues.
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Crew cab van and stick swivel plate in the front seats give you a dining room. Get a caravan :D
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Felix wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:56 am Crew cab van and stick swivel plate in the front seats give you a dining room. Get a caravan :D
Can't get a motorbike in the back and i don't fancy towing a trailer with a van due to visibility etc... it's like the worst of all worlds.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:26 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:23 am Most SUVs are road noisy, you might prefer something more road biased, a Mondeo estate springs to mind.
Mondeos have struggled slightly in terms of terrain. The reason being, they're properly long and low. Some of the trails/lanes we go down are ridiculous and with the Mondeo also having a low slung towbar, it did cause us issues getting in and out of places. We almost/did ground out a couple of times... Hence why i sold the previous Mondeo. The QQ has much better ground clearance and a shorter wheelbase which negates those issues.
Big petrol SUVs are rare unless you're going to go for something mental like a Dodge or Jeep
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:36 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:26 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:23 am Most SUVs are road noisy, you might prefer something more road biased, a Mondeo estate springs to mind.
Mondeos have struggled slightly in terms of terrain. The reason being, they're properly long and low. Some of the trails/lanes we go down are ridiculous and with the Mondeo also having a low slung towbar, it did cause us issues getting in and out of places. We almost/did ground out a couple of times... Hence why i sold the previous Mondeo. The QQ has much better ground clearance and a shorter wheelbase which negates those issues.
Big petrol SUVs are rare unless you're going to go for something mental like a Dodge or Jeep
Even petrol Jeeps are rare, when I bought my Grand Cherokee the only petrol version was the 5l V8.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:36 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:26 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:23 am Most SUVs are road noisy, you might prefer something more road biased, a Mondeo estate springs to mind.
Mondeos have struggled slightly in terms of terrain. The reason being, they're properly long and low. Some of the trails/lanes we go down are ridiculous and with the Mondeo also having a low slung towbar, it did cause us issues getting in and out of places. We almost/did ground out a couple of times... Hence why i sold the previous Mondeo. The QQ has much better ground clearance and a shorter wheelbase which negates those issues.
Big petrol SUVs are rare unless you're going to go for something mental like a Dodge or Jeep
Depends on the 'big' though. Plenty of Q5s, X-trails, Mazda CX*, CRVs etc...
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I wouldn't describe any of them as big, none will have a boot to rival the Mondeo.
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