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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:01 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67663128

I mean....fair play to the lad :lol: Sounds like the sort of thing you'd see in a movie and call bollox.

The jury was told that while he was on bail for hacking Nvidia and BT/EE and in police protection at a Travelodge hotel, he continued hacking and carried out his most infamous hack.

Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone.
For those who give a shit about that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they give a shit about.
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JamJar wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:01 pm But that is a good thing surely, it's a pharmacists job to know what medication is best for something.
Is it bollocks, Dr prescribes meds, pharmacist says "you get nothing". They sure as fuck aren't turning up in the OR to tell the surgeon & crew what they can & can't administer while you get a TKR, or wake up in Recovery etc. This entire opioid plague & antibiotic resistance paranoia is seriously screwing with people who have a genuine need for meds.
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ZRX61 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:16 am
JamJar wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:01 pm But that is a good thing surely, it's a pharmacists job to know what medication is best for something.
Is it bollocks, Dr prescribes meds, pharmacist says "you get nothing". They sure as fuck aren't turning up in the OR to tell the surgeon & crew what they can & can't administer while you get a TKR, or wake up in Recovery etc. This entire opioid plague & antibiotic resistance paranoia is seriously screwing with people who have a genuine need for meds.
I had a pharmacist refuse to just give me the script that the doc has written and she called the doctor to get him to write something else - what he's prescribed wold have made me pretty ill and was very 'old fashioned' and she didn't want to give that to me as there were better meds out there.

I changed doctors after that, didn't change pharmacists

Had a local pharmacist up here who wouldn't give me one of the meds on a prescription when I broke my leg. For pain relief on paracetamol and ibuprofen mixed help (even in a minimal way is better than some of the opioids that have zero effect) - the local gp had prescribed both for me but the pharmacist wouldn't give me the ibuprofen as i was on the anti blood clot injection and they shouldn't be taken together (the GP hadn't prescribed the anti clot injections as that was prescribed by the hospital). Ok, not particularly happy because all the other options offered were opioid and so useless. But equally, I was happy that I wasn't mixing meds that I shouldn't mix!
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It's always as well to DYOR on prescribed stuff too and look at what you shouldn't mix. (The missus is on anticoags so Ibuprofen is out, also one Dr suggested a second drug but another - younger - Dr's eyebrows went up and he said 'No, no, no.....that's only prescribed for inactive people and you certainly aren't that').

So, I guess the more eyeballs on medication, suitability, contraindications etc the better, but, all the info is out there so it's as well to look at it.

(Although the possible side effects they list for just about everything is enough to put you off the lot!).
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Noggin wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:06 pm Part of the issue for GPs and hospitals is that the general pubic can't take responsibility for themselves!! You don't need a GP or A&E for something trivial/simple - and a lot of that could be sorted by going to a pharmacist for advice!!!

I do know that some bad things start with trivial, but again, a pharmacist could easily help work out if you NEED A&E or a GP or just something over the counter!

Equally, some of us go the other way and I've had to be forced to go to A&E at times when I thought it was something simple that would just sort itself out! LOL

But the average general public really can be thick as soup sometimes and is very responsible for some of the queuing/waiting times :roll:
I don't think there's anyone more qualified on this forum to talk about doctors! 😋😋😋

I'm actually between doctors, as when I moved my docs basically told me they only cover the immediate area and nobody up here is taking on new registrations.

So I have no access to a GP unless I go private.
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Bigjawa wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:52 am
Noggin wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:06 pm Part of the issue for GPs and hospitals is that the general pubic can't take responsibility for themselves!! You don't need a GP or A&E for something trivial/simple - and a lot of that could be sorted by going to a pharmacist for advice!!!

I do know that some bad things start with trivial, but again, a pharmacist could easily help work out if you NEED A&E or a GP or just something over the counter!

Equally, some of us go the other way and I've had to be forced to go to A&E at times when I thought it was something simple that would just sort itself out! LOL

But the average general public really can be thick as soup sometimes and is very responsible for some of the queuing/waiting times :roll:
I don't think there's anyone more qualified on this forum to talk about doctors! 😋😋😋

I'm actually between doctors, as when I moved my docs basically told me they only cover the immediate area and nobody up here is taking on new registrations.

So I have no access to a GP unless I go private.
The like was cos I laughed at your comment about being qualified to talk about doctors!! :lol: :lol:

Not being able to get a new GP sucks big time, but the problem of finding a new GP isn't restricted to Ireland, in rural parts of France there is a similar issue. Big work loads partially due to an ageing population (and the younger generations being unable to look after themselves and make decisions for themselves :roll:) and people don't want to do the GP role as much as the fancy stuff.

My shoulder surgeon thinks the French health system is in trouble. Like the NHS but probably slightly different reasons. The country is so huge and a lot of the ageing folks can't drive to the next town to see a GP, so the paramedics will get more and more calls :(

But I do 100% trust pharmacists - a GP had the knowledge they learnt and that may have been a long time ago. If the keep updated, then great, but many don't. I feel that pharmacists have to keep on top of the newest info much more than GPs, so they are the ones I trust :)
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Count Steer wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:25 am It's always as well to DYOR on prescribed stuff too and look at what you shouldn't mix. (The missus is on anticoags so Ibuprofen is out, also one Dr suggested a second drug but another - younger - Dr's eyebrows went up and he said 'No, no, no.....that's only prescribed for inactive people and you certainly aren't that').

So, I guess the more eyeballs on medication, suitability, contraindications etc the better, but, all the info is out there so it's as well to look at it.

(Although the possible side effects they list for just about everything is enough to put you off the lot!).
I had one Dr prescribe meds for cholesterol & diabetes.
The one for cholesterol increased the issues from diabetes & the one for diabetes made the cholesterol worse.

There's a weird thing over here with Indian Dr's & dentists (dot, not feather) that have it in for Brits.
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Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:30 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:36 am Just be sure to never complain about not being able to get a doctor's appointment eh?
Because most GPs get paid 130k plus in the UK!
(in Germany , when I was there, a GP was paid about 85k)

Most GPs are electing to do maximum part time - which means they are still salaried at NHS rates to about 70K. And then they had private surgeries doing other stuff more lucrative in the rest of their time.
Junior Drs never have been paid well - but it is the entry point to becoming a consultant / GP etc.
But 35% is not going to happened. And then the back log that will result means that operations are being cancelled again, the death rate from cancer in the UK is already woeful and will get worse.
And then consultants are being paid to cover the junior doctors at rates of 3-5k per shift.
Go figure why the NHS thinks it's underfunded ....
The junior doctors who are striking should be ashamed of themselves.

They shouldn't get into that profession if they have literally no morals, they should just go into politics as at least we then know they will only be in it for the money and can treat them accordingly.

How many of us got paid the top level of wage for your profession in a junior role? yep that's right, none of us, so why should these little spoilt brats get the 35% uplift?

They should be fully ashamed and IMO struck off and told to think about why they entered a profession that is primarily helping people in the first place!

Personally if i saw them on a picket line i would go over and punch one of them in the face and say "who's gonna sort your face out now c.unt!"
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I saw a doctor once. He didn't see me. I was hiding.
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Who demands the 35%?

Doctors or unions? Both are twats.

They all know the pay scales when they start.
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Greenman wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:14 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:30 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:36 am Just be sure to never complain about not being able to get a doctor's appointment eh?
Because most GPs get paid 130k plus in the UK!
(in Germany , when I was there, a GP was paid about 85k)

Most GPs are electing to do maximum part time - which means they are still salaried at NHS rates to about 70K. And then they had private surgeries doing other stuff more lucrative in the rest of their time.
Junior Drs never have been paid well - but it is the entry point to becoming a consultant / GP etc.
But 35% is not going to happened. And then the back log that will result means that operations are being cancelled again, the death rate from cancer in the UK is already woeful and will get worse.
And then consultants are being paid to cover the junior doctors at rates of 3-5k per shift.
Go figure why the NHS thinks it's underfunded ....
The junior doctors who are striking should be ashamed of themselves.

They shouldn't get into that profession if they have literally no morals, they should just go into politics as at least we then know they will only be in it for the money and can treat them accordingly.

How many of us got paid the top level of wage for your profession in a junior role? yep that's right, none of us, so why should these little spoilt brats get the 35% uplift?

They should be fully ashamed and IMO struck off and told to think about why they entered a profession that is primarily helping people in the first place!

Personally if i saw them on a picket line i would go over and punch one of them in the face and say "who's gonna sort your face out now c.unt!"
You have no idea what a junior doctor is.It doesn’t mean they are young or newly qualified, it is the title of any doctor who has not specialised.
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Maybe they should get junior barristers to help their arguments eh? ;)
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Yorick wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:59 pm Who demands the 35%?

Doctors or unions? Both are twats.

They all know the pay scales when they start.
I know a guy who was a junior doctor, then his missus popped out twins and he jacked it in to drive tippers as the money wasn't much different and the hours were much more family friendly.
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Noggin wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:12 am
Had a local pharmacist up here who wouldn't give me one of the meds on a prescription when I broke my leg.
When my missus was really ill, the pharmacist opposite la surgery advised her to change GPs.
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Potter wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:17 am Young doctors are basically useless, they're academics with little practical ability, low on life skills and frankly most nurses will be of better use, but give them time and some experience and they'll be worth a lot and they'll get paid a lot.
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Taipan wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:24 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:36 am Just be sure to never complain about not being able to get a doctor's appointment eh?
S'funny, but my friends that work in the local hospital (mostly) blame GPs for A&E queues and wont be dissuaded on that, but when I needed to see a Doctor recently I found its never been easier! :think: Log onto E-Consult, describe the problem, then surgery calls back with an appointment time (for 2 days later). Emergency appointments are first come first served by ringing or queueing at surgery from 8am, which apparently is manic.

So I do wonder if a lot of people are missing out if they aren't tech savvy enough to use things like E-Consult? My elderly rellys certainly wouldn't be able to use it. Its a pretty inappropriate system if that is the case and with our local surgeries it looks like it is... :roll:
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irie wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 7:45 pm We use E-Consult. The world changes in 6-9 months time and we ask you to be patient.
Fixed this to better represent my GP :thumbup:

Well. Former GP. I switched surgery last week. When asked why we just said "we're currently with XXX" to which the answer was "ah...say no more" :lol:
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Noggin wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:06 pm Part of the issue for GPs and hospitals is that the general pubic can't take responsibility for themselves!! You don't need a GP or A&E for something trivial/simple - and a lot of that could be sorted by going to a pharmacist for advice!!!

I do know that some bad things start with trivial, but again, a pharmacist could easily help work out if you NEED A&E or a GP or just something over the counter!

Equally, some of us go the other way and I've had to be forced to go to A&E at times when I thought it was something simple that would just sort itself out! LOL

But the average general public really can be thick as soup sometimes and is very responsible for some of the queuing/waiting times :roll:

This argument crops up quite a bit and there's a grain of truth in it.
Problem is that theres also an ongoing mental healthcare crisis, homeless services are being cut and the ageing population are more affected by things like dementia.
There's a significant number of people turning up at casualty who really should be able to go somewhere else first. Many of them just need a little help and although casualty might not be the right place for what they do need its the only place they know where they can just speak to someone.
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demographic wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:16 pm
Noggin wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:06 pm Part of the issue for GPs and hospitals is that the general pubic can't take responsibility for themselves!! You don't need a GP or A&E for something trivial/simple - and a lot of that could be sorted by going to a pharmacist for advice!!!

I do know that some bad things start with trivial, but again, a pharmacist could easily help work out if you NEED A&E or a GP or just something over the counter!

Equally, some of us go the other way and I've had to be forced to go to A&E at times when I thought it was something simple that would just sort itself out! LOL

But the average general public really can be thick as soup sometimes and is very responsible for some of the queuing/waiting times :roll:

This argument crops up quite a bit and there's a grain of truth in it.
Problem is that theres also an ongoing mental healthcare crisis, homeless services are being cut and the ageing population are more affected by things like dementia.
There's a significant number of people turning up at casualty who really should be able to go somewhere else first. Many of them just need a little help and although casualty might not be the right place for what they do need its the only place they know where they can just speak to someone.
This for sure. Mine was a very blanket statement and I shouldn't have lumped everyone in together because I am aware that some mental health areas it's almost impossible to get to see someone in the time needed. So yes, I 100% I should have qualified that. But the people I always got peeved with were the ones with a cold, or a graze that took up GP or A&E time when a pharmacist could 100% have advised as well if not better :(
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