In todays news...

Current affairs, Politics, News.
User avatar
DefTrap
Posts: 4504
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
Has thanked: 2265 times
Been thanked: 2193 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by DefTrap »

Noggin wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:55 am

But HTF can you legislate against it? :roll:
I just live with it. :thumbup: :)

Srsly though - as a massive, hairy, and now old, bastard, I get stared at all the time. (I don't notice any more, the missus tells me). Yes I know this isn't the same as what they're talking about, but human nature is the same. Unfortunately it would be easier for me to change and not them.
User avatar
Count Steer
Posts: 11828
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:59 pm
Has thanked: 6381 times
Been thanked: 4761 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Count Steer »

The :roll: thing is thinking that a poster is actually going to make a positive* difference. It's like putting a sign up reminding passengers that pickpocketing is against the law.

* It'll make a negative difference though. If you're innocently staring blankly into space, wondering what to cook this evening, some flake will start screaming at you that you're staring at them and call 999.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one
.
Voltaire
User avatar
Yambo
Posts: 2470
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:08 pm
Location: Self Isolating
Has thanked: 598 times
Been thanked: 1647 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Yambo »

You're not allowed to call them 'flakes' any more CS, they're 'victims' now and you're a hate criminal. :thumbup:
slowsider
Posts: 3189
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:45 pm
Location: RoI
Has thanked: 1264 times
Been thanked: 1188 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by slowsider »

So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
User avatar
Horse
Posts: 11558
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:30 am
Location: Always sunny southern England
Has thanked: 6196 times
Been thanked: 5088 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Horse »

Count Steer wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:54 am The :roll: thing is thinking that a poster is actually going to make a positive* difference. It's like putting a sign up reminding passengers that pickpocketing is against the law.
It might make potential victims think about their safety and security.

In the same way that, supposedly, a pickpocket's accomplice will say loudly 'there are pickpockets about' and all the innocents tap the pocket with a wallet to check, highlighting where to target.
Count Steer wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:54 am * It'll make a negative difference though. If you're innocently staring blankly into space, wondering what to cook this evening, some flake will start screaming at you that you're staring at them and call 999.
Or, in my case, when I was having my post blood doning drink and biscuits, I was struggling to read the small print on a packet so focused intently. Nurse came to check - thought I was having an absence :D
Even bland can be a type of character :wave:
User avatar
Count Steer
Posts: 11828
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:59 pm
Has thanked: 6381 times
Been thanked: 4761 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Count Steer »

Yambo wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:58 am You're not allowed to call them 'flakes' any more CS, they're 'victims' now and you're a hate criminal. :thumbup:
I do like the difference though. They used to advertise pickpockets. 'Warning, pickpockets operate in this area'. Not, 'Warning pickpockets, if you try operating in this area, we'll prosecute'. To be consistent they should have put signs up 'Warning, some people stare in this area'.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one
.
Voltaire
User avatar
DefTrap
Posts: 4504
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:23 am
Has thanked: 2265 times
Been thanked: 2193 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by DefTrap »

slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
Something like this has been coming for a while. Gervais, and others, have been using awards ceremonies to "poke fun" at their celebrity audiences on the basis that slebs are used to it and will laugh it off. There was a comment from Gervais the other year, another awards do, where he mentioned DiCaprio and Prince Andrew in the same sentence (the context being the age of their preferred partners). Could easily have kicked off.

Or it could all be part of the show, nobody gives AF about the Oscars any more right?
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by irie »

Noggin wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:55 am The thing is, I can understand where that has come from. There are times when people can stare with lust, stare whilst mentally undressing someone (which is pretty obvious when you watch the face of the starer!). Which could seriously unnerve the one being stared at depending on the situation

But HTF can you legislate against it? :roll:
Just ignore a "starer". Simples.
Last edited by irie on Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
Greenman
Posts: 1740
Joined: Fri May 01, 2020 10:05 pm
Has thanked: 209 times
Been thanked: 403 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Greenman »

slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
No doubt all setup for publicity.

Do they both have a new film coming out?
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by irie »

Greenman wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:47 am
slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
No doubt all setup for publicity.

Do they both have a new film coming out?
I think they might have history, but in any case it's "sticks and stones" ...
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
User avatar
McNab
Posts: 392
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:07 pm
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 178 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by McNab »

slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
Thing is, he was laughing at the joke then saw the face of his Mrs. He probably thought "Aw shit, I'm gonna get it when we get home, I better do something"

The slap itself looked like a staged movie slap, but then Chris Rock's reaction seemed genuine and the swearing from Smith and Jada's reaction to the joke makes me lean toward not it being a set-up.
User avatar
Noggin
Posts: 8030
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:46 pm
Location: Ski Resort
Has thanked: 16222 times
Been thanked: 3927 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Noggin »

irie wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:47 am
Noggin wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:55 am The thing is, I can understand where that has come from. There are times when people can stare with lust, stare whilst mentally undressing someone (which is pretty obvious when you watch the face of the starer!). Which could seriously unnerve the one being stared at depending on the situation

But HTF can you legislate against it? :roll:
Just ignore a "starer". Simples.
I do. But then I've worked in pubs since I was 16 so I'm used to drunk letches. Sober letches have zero effect!! But other people aren't the same

For instance, I had a friend that constantly felt 'harassed' on the tube. She felt that whenever she was on the tube, there'd be someone that would follow her, stand too close so she felt threatened, stare at her etc etc etc. She always felt uncomfortable.

Me? Same situations, I never noticed anyone behaving like that!! The difference in our figures then would suggest that I would probably get more 'hassle' but I didn't notice.

So, was she expecting it because she felt that the tube was an unsafe environment and the flip side is that I didn't notice because I didn't care? Was she getting the 'looks/harassment' because she gave off the vibe of being in fear. Was she imagining it? Or was I just daft as a brush and didn't notice after years of dealing with letches in bars??


Like I said - HTF do you legislate against 'looks/looking'?? And as someone above said, if you are thinking about something completely different and happen to be staring into a space 'near' someone - will they assume you are letching at them? (My friend would have!! LOL)
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!! :bblonde:
Kneerly Down
Posts: 719
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:30 am
Has thanked: 164 times
Been thanked: 308 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Kneerly Down »

slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
Thuggery.
That was a fairly long walk up on stage and should have started and ended with 'words'.
Given what did happen it demands an apology, to Chris Rock.

The 'Academy' issued a statement saying that it doesn't condone violence.
It should, of course, have condemned this violence.
Instead, minutes after assaulting someone, Smith was given an accolade by them.
JackyJoll
Posts: 3731
Joined: Sun May 03, 2020 10:11 pm
Has thanked: 261 times
Been thanked: 1266 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by JackyJoll »

McNab wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:11 am but then Chris Rock's reaction seemed genuine
Maybe he’s had acting lessons.
Mussels
Posts: 4444
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 838 times
Been thanked: 1240 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
Will Smith isn't as black as Chris Rock so it's a race crime.
slowsider
Posts: 3189
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:45 pm
Location: RoI
Has thanked: 1264 times
Been thanked: 1188 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by slowsider »

Mussels wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:57 am
slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
Will Smith isn't as black as Chris Rock so it's a race crime.
Shark Tale versus Madagascar - the zebra always comes off worse
User avatar
Screwdriver
Posts: 2162
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:15 pm
Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my hat...
Has thanked: 256 times
Been thanked: 740 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Screwdriver »

Somebody pokes fun at a friend of mine for having a disability or (as in this case) a prominent feature as a result of cancer, they are getting a slap.

I mean up on stage, in front of the entire Hollywood elite, you pick your jokes wisely. Gervais gets away with some pretty wide brush strokes but people can always choose not to become notorious for their choice in women (if the truth hurts), they can stop the ignorant hypocrisy of understanding "the poor".

Will Smiths wife can't just grow her hair back. Nor should that be a source of amusement for anyone.

Smiling and laughing is an animal threat response. You are baring your teeth for a reason.
User avatar
MrLongbeard
Posts: 4593
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:06 pm
Has thanked: 599 times
Been thanked: 2448 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by MrLongbeard »

slowsider wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:02 am So, Will Smith... chivalry or thuggery?
A little slap!!!!! He should have knocked him in to last week.
Saga Lout
Posts: 1842
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 566 times
Been thanked: 756 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Saga Lout »

Noggin wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:15 am...I had a friend that constantly felt 'harassed' on the tube. She felt that whenever she was on the tube, there'd be someone that would follow her, stand too close so she felt threatened, stare at her etc etc etc. She always felt uncomfortable.
On the tube everybody stands too close to everybody else, it's not personal. :roll:
Noggin wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:15 am...Or was I just daft as a brush...
Must resist. Must resist. :silent:
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by irie »

What a fucking idiot! :roll:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... is-latest/
Sir Keir Starmer refuses to answer when asked whether a woman can have a penis
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno