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demographic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:29 pm I'm calling bullshit on the only men on the small boats cos theres a load of women and chidren who were put up in a local hotel, I've seen em with my own eyes.
Then another hotel had blokes in it and as far as Ive seen they've been friendly and smile, say hello/good morning when I walk the dog past em.
Maybe you lot are cowering in fear but I'm ambling past and having no issues, do you need to strap a pair on?
Far more issues locally with home grown coke dealers.
I was on a ferry to the mainland last year and there were about 100 asylum seekers who had landed in the Canaries and now being shipped over to Spain
No problems except the long queues at meal times ;)
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Taipan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:56 am

'Take over the continent 'in the name of the coming Caliphate,' urges imam in Jerusalem
Breed and conquer Europe, al-Aqsa preacher exhorts Muslims.
An imam at Jerusalem’s al-Aqsa Mosque last week called on Muslim migrants to Europe to produce children in order to conquer the continent “in the name of the coming Caliphate.”
No more or less what the Pope has been preaching for centuries. Well, not the actual Pope, but you know what I mean.
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JamJar wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:58 am
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:21 am We have a problem, but very few people will admit it. It's OK, time will solve it, but a lot of people will get hurt in the process.

What we need, for EVERY citizen, is a clear declaration that they accept the constitution and the law of the UK. If they don't they should be invited to leave.
Most immigrants are fine, most right wingers don't want to kill people. It is the extremists on both sides who stir up trouble.
We don’t have a constitution.
To the contrary, we do indeed have a Constitution.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constit ... ed_Kingdom
The constitution of the United Kingdom comprises the written and unwritten arrangements that establish the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as a political body. Unlike in most countries, no official attempt has been made to codify such arrangements into a single document, thus it is known as an uncodified constitution. This enables the constitution to be easily changed as no provisions are formally entrenched.
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gremlin wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:46 pm
Taipan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:56 am

'Take over the continent 'in the name of the coming Caliphate,' urges imam in Jerusalem
Breed and conquer Europe, al-Aqsa preacher exhorts Muslims.
An imam at Jerusalem’s al-Aqsa Mosque last week called on Muslim migrants to Europe to produce children in order to conquer the continent “in the name of the coming Caliphate.”
No more or less what the Pope has been preaching for centuries. Well, not the actual Pope, but you know what I mean.
:shock: They're coming over too!

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The problem is too many immigrants (we are a small and crowded island) and too quickly (not enough time to become assimilated). We have assimilated refugees before, we can do it again, but the present situation plays into the hands of extremists, both immigrant and home grown.

I don't want to see violence on the streets, but I fear it will come.
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You lot have got to start distinguishing properly between refugees and immigrants.

The UK should be and generally is sympathetic to refugees and rightly so but a lot of the people coming into the UK are not refugees. Far from it in fact.

All you are doing is muddying the water, probably for political reasons.
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Yorick wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:31 pm
demographic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:29 pm I'm calling bullshit on the only men on the small boats cos theres a load of women and chidren who were put up in a local hotel, I've seen em with my own eyes.
Then another hotel had blokes in it and as far as Ive seen they've been friendly and smile, say hello/good morning when I walk the dog past em.
Maybe you lot are cowering in fear but I'm ambling past and having no issues, do you need to strap a pair on?
Far more issues locally with home grown coke dealers.
I was on a ferry to the mainland last year and there were about 100 asylum seekers who had landed in the Canaries and now being shipped over to Spain
No problems except the long queues at meal times ;)
The ones have seen quite a lot of were asylum seekers, thats why they were housed in a local hotel while the government dicked about slowing the zyztem down for political reasons.
Anyway, I seriously wonder at how people interact as they move about an area, do they look dire tly at other people, .aybe smile and treat them like people?
Or scowl and mutter?

I talk to passers by, nod, let on and a majority of the time its either a tentative positive or a solid positive response.

I firmly believe that in order to live in a nice place some of that has to come from me.
I love my small city, not in a flag wavy way but its alright by me.
If I don't keep my end of the bargain up it slips a.little bit and its a little bit worse because of my lack of effort.
Scowl at people and they fast work out you have issues with the. and thats going to make yer area worse.

I make a point of talking to old people, takes no time and I hope it makes them feel that the world is a friendly place and not at all like the GB news/ Mail and other doomsayer parasites make out.
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demographic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:45 pm
Yorick wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:31 pm
demographic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:29 pm I'm calling bullshit on the only men on the small boats cos theres a load of women and chidren who were put up in a local hotel, I've seen em with my own eyes.
Then another hotel had blokes in it and as far as Ive seen they've been friendly and smile, say hello/good morning when I walk the dog past em.
Maybe you lot are cowering in fear but I'm ambling past and having no issues, do you need to strap a pair on?
Far more issues locally with home grown coke dealers.
I was on a ferry to the mainland last year and there were about 100 asylum seekers who had landed in the Canaries and now being shipped over to Spain
No problems except the long queues at meal times ;)
The ones have seen quite a lot of were asylum seekers, thats why they were housed in a local hotel while the government dicked about slowing the zyztem down for political reasons.
Anyway, I seriously wonder at how people interact as they move about an area, do they look dire tly at other people, .aybe smile and treat them like people?
Or scowl and mutter?

I talk to passers by, nod, let on and a majority of the time its either a tentative positive or a solid positive response.

I firmly believe that in order to live in a nice place some of that has to come from me.
I love my small city, not in a flag wavy way but its alright by me.
If I don't keep my end of the bargain up it slips a.little bit and its a little bit worse because of my lack of effort.
Scowl at people and they fast work out you have issues with the. and thats going to make yer area worse.

I make a point of talking to old people, takes no time and I hope it makes them feel that the world is a friendly place and not at all like the GB news/ Mail and other doomsayer parasites make out.
What are you, 10 years old or something! Have a conversation for Christ's sake, there's no moral high ground there and resorting to that as your justification for assuming it is pathetic and should be beneath you. Its so tired its like the new Godwins ffs! Still, I suppose its to your credit that you're so avuncular to our new residents!

Anyway, I find it odd that the men would go ahead and leave the wives and kids behind in so called war torn countries and send for them later. :wtf:
Migration Observatory wrote: The majority of those arriving in small boats are men. In the year to 31 March 2024, 75% (22,357) were male and aged 18 or over (excluding those of unknown age or sex). Another 16% (4,630) of arrivals in the same period were children (under 18). These proportions have been stable over time, and similar to those observed in asylum applicants more broadly (72% and 19%, respectively, in the year to March 2024). One reason for the higher share of men among asylum seekers, in general, is the danger associated with irregular migration journeys. In many cases, female and minor family members join later through family reunification routes.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:21 am constitution of the UK.
What's that then, the fucking Magna Carta?
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Where was the Magna Carta signed?

At the bottom.
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When you see the number's, week in, week out, it can be scary if you think about it, it's easier for many if they don't.

The UK, is on it's knees, but still we welcome them. Governments do nothing until public opinion sways their direction. Frustration leads to riot participation for those with nothing to lose, Its a minority they say, but I think many sympathise.

It's a shit show for sure and I see nothing changing, just more riots. Happy days.
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Taipan wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:32 pm
demographic wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:45 pm
Yorick wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 1:31 pm
I was on a ferry to the mainland last year and there were about 100 asylum seekers who had landed in the Canaries and now being shipped over to Spain
No problems except the long queues at meal times ;)
The ones have seen quite a lot of were asylum seekers, thats why they were housed in a local hotel while the government dicked about slowing the zyztem down for political reasons.
Anyway, I seriously wonder at how people interact as they move about an area, do they look dire tly at other people, .aybe smile and treat them like people?
Or scowl and mutter?

I talk to passers by, nod, let on and a majority of the time its either a tentative positive or a solid positive response.

I firmly believe that in order to live in a nice place some of that has to come from me.
I love my small city, not in a flag wavy way but its alright by me.
If I don't keep my end of the bargain up it slips a.little bit and its a little bit worse because of my lack of effort.
Scowl at people and they fast work out you have issues with the. and thats going to make yer area worse.

I make a point of talking to old people, takes no time and I hope it makes them feel that the world is a friendly place and not at all like the GB news/ Mail and other doomsayer parasites make out.
What are you, 10 years old or something! Have a conversation for Christ's sake, there's no moral high ground there and resorting to that as your justification for assuming it is pathetic and should be beneath you. Its so tired its like the new Godwins ffs! Still, I suppose its to your credit that you're so avuncular to our new residents!

Anyway, I find it odd that the men would go ahead and leave the wives and kids behind in so called war torn countries and send for them later. :wtf:
Migration Observatory wrote: The majority of those arriving in small boats are men. In the year to 31 March 2024, 75% (22,357) were male and aged 18 or over (excluding those of unknown age or sex). Another 16% (4,630) of arrivals in the same period were children (under 18). These proportions have been stable over time, and similar to those observed in asylum applicants more broadly (72% and 19%, respectively, in the year to March 2024). One reason for the higher share of men among asylum seekers, in general, is the danger associated with irregular migration journeys. In many cases, female and minor family members join later through family reunification routes.
Do me a favour please, just have a look at yourself. Few steps back, breath.
It's embarrassing to watch.
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Pirahna wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:09 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:21 am constitution of the UK.
What's that then, the fucking Magna Carta?
Only the fucking thick would think that is the case.
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irie wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:23 pm
Pirahna wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:09 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:21 am constitution of the UK.
What's that then, the fucking Magna Carta?
Only the fucking thick would think that is the case.
Your earlier link specifically mentions Magna Carta :crazy:
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irie wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:23 pm
Pirahna wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:09 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:21 am constitution of the UK.
What's that then, the fucking Magna Carta?
Only the fucking thick would think that is the case.
In many ways still a "sacred text", Magna Carta is generally considered part of the uncodified constitution of the United Kingdom; in a 2005 speech, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, Lord Woolf, described it as the "first of a series of instruments that now are recognised as having a special constitutional status".

What a fucking thicko. :hmmm:



from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta
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Screwdriver wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:35 pm
irie wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 9:23 pm
Pirahna wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:09 pm
What's that then, the fucking Magna Carta?
Only the fucking thick would think that is the case.
In many ways still a "sacred text", Magna Carta is generally considered part of the uncodified constitution of the United Kingdom; in a 2005 speech, the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, Lord Woolf, described it as the "first of a series of instruments that now are recognised as having a special constitutional status".

What a fucking thicko. :hmmm:

from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magna_Carta
Only a fucking thicko thinks that the Magna Carta is the constitution. :hmmm:

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irie wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:18 pm
Only a fucking thicko thinks that the Magna Carta is the constitution. :hmmm:

:lol:
Why would you get so angry for such a semantically narrow transgression? Are you really that much better than everyone else?

The issue is complex, interesting and quite possibly about to change. How long can a constitutional monarchy exist in the modern age? What plans do Labour have for destroying our United Kingdom? What instruments do we have as sovereign citizens to stop Labour from causing permanent irreversible damage?

or is it somehow better to just call people fucking thickos and be done with it?
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Merely echoing previous intolerant bad language, much of which is yours. :)
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irie wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:15 am Merely echoing previous intolerant bad language, much of which is yours. :)
He does however make a number of very valid points.
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