In todays news...

Current affairs, Politics, News.
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5935
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 812 times
Been thanked: 4809 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

Looking at this news story on the BBC.



There's a definite 'driver bad - cyclist the victim' slant in the story, but I'm watching the video pondering two things:

Can't see what was wrong with the overtake, but clearly the clip is short and not very telling.

If a cyclist in a group decided to hang on to my car, I'd probably feel quite intimidated or threatened. Had the lead cyclist decided to slow right down and stop, you'd be forced to do the same and be at risk of a Lycra-clad shoeing.


As my ol' mum would day, 'Six of one, 'alf a dozen of the other'.
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
User avatar
weeksy
Site Admin
Posts: 23443
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 pm
Has thanked: 5457 times
Been thanked: 13103 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by weeksy »

Aye, I agree.

Cyclist shouldn't have put hands on the car, it can only make a situation worse.
Car driver should get more than a caution though IMO.
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5935
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 812 times
Been thanked: 4809 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:40 pm
Car driver should get more than a caution though IMO.
He drives a Nissan Juke. Punishment enough, surely.
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
User avatar
Trinity765
Posts: 2321
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:27 pm
Location: Brighton
Has thanked: 2442 times
Been thanked: 2398 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Trinity765 »

@Yorick Oooer, this is a bit close - is there such a thing as a hot ash umbrella?

https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/lapalm ... ivity.html
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16761
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10284 times
Been thanked: 6900 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Yorick »

Trinity765 wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:54 pm @Yorick Oooer, this is a bit close - is there such a thing as a hot ash umbrella?

https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/lapalm ... ivity.html
Yeah, we're all following that.
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5935
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 812 times
Been thanked: 4809 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

SAVE THE CHEAP BEER!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SAVE THE CHEAP BEER!
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
Saga Lout
Posts: 1847
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 568 times
Been thanked: 758 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Saga Lout »

gremlin wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:01 pm...

Can't see what was wrong with the overtake, but clearly the clip is short and not very telling.

...
Here's the video of the overtake and the aftermath:

Lutin
Posts: 649
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:52 pm
Location: Just across the border in the Republic
Has thanked: 258 times
Been thanked: 332 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Lutin »

Saga Lout wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:17 pmHere's the video of the overtake and the aftermath:


I must be missing something here.

You'd think that overtaking the car driver wanted to "get on" - so why does he then slow down to argue?

Can't have been in that much of a hurry after all.
Blundering about trying not to make too much of a hash of things.
Mussels
Posts: 4446
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 839 times
Been thanked: 1242 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

The car driver looks clearly in the wrong but I suspect the rolling road block ignored several opportunities to diffuse the situation.
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5935
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 812 times
Been thanked: 4809 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

I'm more thinking that my mum was right.

Neither party exactly cover themselves in glory. They want to both fucking grow up.
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16761
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10284 times
Been thanked: 6900 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Yorick »

gremlin wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:41 pm SAVE THE CHEAP BEER!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SAVE THE CHEAP BEER!
And the free pizza :)
Mussels
Posts: 4446
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Has thanked: 839 times
Been thanked: 1242 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mussels »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58587147
I hadn't even thought about it but now I want to know what's in it.
BBC wrote:Prince Philip's will to be secret for 90 years
User avatar
Pirahna
Posts: 1952
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2020 7:31 pm
Has thanked: 1818 times
Been thanked: 1168 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Pirahna »

Re the cyclists:

The car driver should recognise the hazard, deal with it safely, then continue on his journey congratulating himself on a job well done. Any course of action other than this marks him/her down as incompetent. A course of action which results in motorist stopping to argue makes him/her a total cunt, as in this case. The roads are full of fools who've passed a rudimentary driving test and think they're gods gift to motoring.
User avatar
gremlin
Posts: 5935
Joined: Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:12 pm
Location: Kent (AKA God's own country)
Has thanked: 812 times
Been thanked: 4809 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by gremlin »

True. But those cyclists didn't need to prod the village idiot with a stick. Their behaviour was equally as aggressive.

Burn then all. Twice.

Then dance on their ashes.
All aboard the Peckham Pigeon! All aboard!
User avatar
Yorick
Posts: 16761
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:20 pm
Location: Paradise
Has thanked: 10284 times
Been thanked: 6900 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Yorick »

That cyclist deserved a slap.
slowsider
Posts: 3189
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:45 pm
Location: RoI
Has thanked: 1264 times
Been thanked: 1188 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by slowsider »

Looking at the poor machine handling, I think he may have been a triathlete...
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13982
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2556 times
Been thanked: 6263 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

If you're on a flimsy bicycle and the other person is in a nice safe metal box you'd have to be a fucking moron to try and start something with them. It doesn't matter how right you are - or think you are - you're going to come off worse.

People are their own worst enemies.
User avatar
irie
Posts: 2769
Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:09 pm
Location: Noviomagus Reginorum
Has thanked: 1482 times
Been thanked: 411 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by irie »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58604677
France has said it is recalling its ambassadors in the US and Australia for consultations, in protest at a security deal which also includes the UK.

The French foreign minister said the "exceptional decision" was justified by the situation's "exceptional gravity".

The alliance, known as Aukus, will see Australia being given the technology to build nuclear-powered submarines.

The move angered France as it scuppered a multibillion-dollar deal it had signed with Australia.
Methinks the French doth protest too much ...

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-aus ... -sub-deal/
Cybersecurity

Trouble began brewing almost immediately after Canberra chose the French bid ahead of alternate designs from Germany and Japan in April 2016.

That August, before the Australian deal was formally signed but after it had been announced, the company DCNS [French naval builder] admitted it had been hacked after 22,000 documents relating to the combat capacity of its Scorpene submarines being built in India were leaked, raising concerns about the security of its Australian project.

Budget blowout

The project was meant to cost 50 billion Australian dollars (€31 billion). But that figure has since almost doubled.

At last count, the Barracudas were going to cost around 90 billion Australian dollars (€56 billion).

Etc.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
Saga Lout
Posts: 1847
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:38 pm
Location: North East Essex
Has thanked: 568 times
Been thanked: 758 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Saga Lout »

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:37 pm If you're on a flimsy bicycle and the other person is in a nice safe metal box you'd have to be a fucking moron to try and start something with them. It doesn't matter how right you are - or think you are - you're going to come off worse.

People are their own worst enemies.
Did you watch the video I linked to?

The cyclist didn't "start something", the driver stopped or slowed right down then set off again while he was in the middle of the group. If anybody "started something" it was the driver.
Mr. Dazzle
Posts: 13982
Joined: Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:57 pm
Location: Milton Keynes
Has thanked: 2556 times
Been thanked: 6263 times

Re: In todays news...

Post by Mr. Dazzle »

You can only see backwards in that video. At 35s they all start crowding around the slow/stopped car.

Gremlin is right, they all need burning and then burning again. And anyone who tries to put themselves in front of a car being driven by an angry person is a fucking tit. They may not deserve to be run over but they'd have to be a bit thick to not expect it.