Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[wheelnut]

My FB feed is now full of notifications from schools saying they’re not opening tomorrow due to teachers refusing to attend.

[weeksy]

My FB feed is now full of notifications from schools saying they’re not opening tomorrow due to teachers refusing to attend.

Delete Facebook?

[slowsider]

He isn’t ...

Shes the joint general secretary - the other one is male, which leader of the union do you know?

The union running the campaign to stay away is the NEU and their current President is Amanda Martin ...

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/education/ ... wn-3022780


If only you could bring yourself to ask BEFORE you make your snidey comments eh?

Snidey comments? Bless. Like ".she only taught for a couple of years before jumping on the union gravy train..I doubt she has ever particularly wanted to teach .."?
If only you could specify who you meant BEFORE you posted yours ...
Is it this Amanda Martin?
"a primary school teacher of 22 years"

https://www.tes.com/news/profileschool- ... y-teachers

[Gedge]

Shes the joint general secretary - the other one is male, which leader of the union do you know?

The union running the campaign to stay away is the NEU and their current President is Amanda Martin ...

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/education/ ... wn-3022780


If only you could bring yourself to ask BEFORE you make your snidey comments eh?

Snidey comments? Bless. Like ".she only taught for a couple of years before jumping on the union gravy train..I doubt she has ever particularly wanted to teach .."?
If only you could specify who you meant BEFORE you posted yours ...
Is it this Amanda Martin?
"a primary school teacher of 22 years"

https://www.tes.com/news/profileschool- ... y-teachers

Yes but f you actually knew her you would know that she spent much of it on maternity leave ( 3 boys a year or two apart) , part time working and the. full time union roles while on secondment from her employer school . but of course her profile might skip over this ..

[Horse]

Just a shame that she’s isn’t the person I was posting about eh?

Yes, you're quite right, it is a shame you didn't name her. Also still irrelevant to infections increasing, and greater numbers of children being infected, etc.

It would kill you to just admit you jumped in both feet first and got it wrong ...are you sure you aren’t female?

Yes.

I guessed (along with Slowsider) the wrong person, based on having seen her in the union magazine for many years, and heard and seen her interviewed many times too.

Now, back to you. We're seeing a massive rise in positive tests, many of the variant that is more likely to be contracted by children. We already have hospitals under extreme pressure. Is it really sensible to get groups of children mixing together, etc, further spreading infections (I posted the by age figures a day or two back)?

And, don't forget, the government has consistently stated that they are guided by the science. So isn't it confusing that they are unwilling to release the evidence and advice on schools?

Here's a few predictions:
- the govt won't back down (immediately)
- several schools (outside of those already told not to eg London) will not open, except for key worker's children, etc. This may because of staff shortages or safety concerns (I've heard of three locally, but seen those confirmed)
- Boris has said today that further restrictions are likely. That, if it happens, will be in days rather than weeks. Of course, any union pressure whether either of the main teaching unions or the heads') will not have been an influence

[slowsider]

The union running the campaign to stay away is the NEU and their current President is Amanda Martin ...

https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/education/ ... wn-3022780


If only you could bring yourself to ask BEFORE you make your snidey comments eh?

Snidey comments? Bless. Like ".she only taught for a couple of years before jumping on the union gravy train..I doubt she has ever particularly wanted to teach .."?
If only you could specify who you meant BEFORE you posted yours ...
Is it this Amanda Martin?
"a primary school teacher of 22 years"

https://www.tes.com/news/profileschool- ... y-teachers

Yes but f you actually knew her you would know that she spent much of it on maternity leave ( 3 boys a year or two apart) , part time working and the. full time union roles while on secondment from her employer school . but of course her profile might skip over this ..

All teachers work part-time.
If she had done it for the Federation no doubt you would skip over it too.

[weeksy]

How long do you lot plan on hiding behind the settee?
Another year?

We're all back at work and my lad went back to school this morning after the Christmas break.

Until it's sensible to do so?

I'm sure they think it's irrelevant in NZ and most of Oz too, doesn't mean it's sensible here though.

[Horse]

How long do you lot plan on hiding behind the settee?
Another year?

We're all back at work and my lad went back to school this morning after the Christmas break.

What's the infection rates there, by age breakdown, so we can compare them with here?

Do you have the new, more contagious, variant there yet?

[Asian Boss]

How long do you lot plan on hiding behind the settee?
Another year?

We're all back at work and my lad went back to school this morning after the Christmas break.

Do you have the new, more contagious, variant there yet?

It's coming to get them; very much like House of Pain in that respect.

[Asian Boss]

What's the infection rates there, by age breakdown, so we can compare them with here?

Do you have the new, more contagious, variant there yet?

Dunno.

Probably.

It's just business as usual with sensible precautions and wearings masks if you leave the house.
Positive cases are still being reported, but I still don't know anyone, that knows anyone, that has died from it.

Everyone is just getting on with life here, it's a fairly moan free place anyway, so people are just getting on with it.

Government censored press. Always the sign of happy people in a well run country.



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[Horse]

Everyone is just getting on with life here, it's a fairly moan free place anyway, so people are just getting on with it.

People are getting on with it here too.

A further 54,990 confirmed cases were announced by the government on Sunday.
The sharp rise in numbers is partly down to a lag in reporting over the holiday period but, according to Public Health England, is "largely a reflection of a real increase".

[Docca]

Dido Harding was the chum awarded the nod. No experience aside from fucking up a phone company.

Is married to a Tory though. Etc.

I wouldn't compromise my integrity by giving mates jobs on public money.

When I was working at a big hospital there were three very senior managers who were all mates, one took early retirement on a massive lump sum and big pension. Then when the dust had settled his mates bought him back as a consultant.

Cronyism is bad stuff eh.

Yes- it’s deplorable. When I first started in MH, it wasn’t unheard of for asylums to have many families working for them.

I think Dido failing is another nail in the ‘private sector fix things’ mantra that some seen keen to sing though.

[Mr. Dazzle]

IME private sector companies which work government contracts are very efficient. They're just efficient at the wrong thing. Guess what it is they're actually good at

Given that there are experts for hire who will help you complete paperwork to show how you've 'done' what you were paid to do you can see the problem.

Fair boils my piss it does and its one reason I dislike working government funded R&D.

[weeksy]

but I still don't know anyone, that knows anyone, that has died from it.

When you do, maybe you'll understand why over here some of us are being a bit more cautious.

[Horse]

Fair boils my piss it does and its one reason I dislike working government funded R&D.

We have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get access to certain limited areas of work, then write detailed bids explaining what we will do, how much it will cost and when we will deliver, etc.

Then to see the way some contracts have been awarded beggars belief. The "don't have any ships" ferry was a classic.

[wheelnut]

If all kids were put back a year it would cause a huge gap in the career chain and then when the first year isn't put back there would be a glut of people entering the workplace with rocketing unemployment.
Then how will university students feel about having to pay out for an extra year with nothing to show for it except a missing years salary?

Well we could always delay the start of this term by five weeks and only give them one week summer holiday,

Then stand back and watch the teachers explode!!

[Yambo]

. . . so if you've got the wrong people giving the instructions then it's fucked. There have been some spectacular examples of this.

I've seen a couple. Not IT, although I've seen cock-ups that affected me as an end user but in military procurement. But that was long ago. I'm sure it doesn't happen any more because people always learn from their mistakes. Don't they.

[DefTrap]

One thing I've learned from implementing large scale IT systems like ERP, etc, is that the IT people know nothing about your business, they'll do exactly what you tell them without applying any logic to it themselves, so if you've got the wrong people giving the instructions then it's fucked. There have been some spectacular examples of this.

Agree 100% but you see it all the time. I'm seeing another wave of it at the moment as businesses get suckered into new 'IT magik' development methods. "This will give you a better, quicker, slicker system because we're using <insert hocus pocus> method this time around. Not like those previous w@nkers". What they seem to hear is "leave it with me, nah of course we don't need specifications, a method, involvement, feedback etc". I'm all for new ideas but IT systems owners (the client) need to get a grip - crap in = crap out. You have to take these projects by the scruff of the neck and manage the content, the project and then the technology. Assume all I T developers are faceless droids and you won't go far wrong.

[irie]

. . . so if you've got the wrong people giving the instructions then it's fucked. There have been some spectacular examples of this.

I've seen a couple. Not IT, although I've seen cock-ups that affected me as an end user but in military procurement. But that was long ago. I'm sure it doesn't happen any more because people always learn from their mistakes. Don't they.

Even if they do learn, the next generation which knows better of course comes along and cocks things up in their own way. Plus ça change.

[Yorick]

Things were a bit different back in the day. This lot weren't moaning and whining...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-gl ... t-55495972