Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[irie]

Police have caught wind of a mass gathering planned on Brighton beach tonight, a significant number of people are ignoring the rules.

Why am I not surprised.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1897406 ... y-planned/

PROTESTERS are organising a New Year's Eve party as Covid cases continue to increase.

A group called Protest Everywhere is planning to throw an end-of-year celebration at Black Rock, Brighton, on Thursday amid a rapid rise in coronavirus cases in the South East.

A poster advertising the event in a seafront car park urges party-goers to “bring a bottle/drums/music/firewood/love and joy”.

The event to “raise the vibration for ’21 with your awake family” is planned to take place from 9pm.

[Mussels]

'your awake family'
Ah, it's a woke party. Nobody can argue with it then.

[Docca]

Because it won't happen to them. Why do people smoke, drink, ride motorcycles, dive solo, go caving, downhill MTBing, play football etc?

People are selfish and it won't be their fault. Nothing new here.

I agree with this.

When I smoked, other people dying of lung cancer was other people. I didn’t think I was invincible, I just didn’t chain smoke so was probably causing less harm.

I’d expect the similar mental justification scales of irresponsibility being adhered to currently.

Having said that, I do also believe the government have fucked this right up. Confused and mixed messages and the tier system? As soon as you rely on people, you’re screwed.

Lock down like we did in March, until March. No tiers.

[Taff]

MrsTaff has just got off the phone with the chinese take away in town. while she was on the phone she had to wait for a walk in customer to place their order, she could hear the converstation between the customer and order taking dude, and the bill came to £170. That's one fucking big family living under one Tier 4 roof

[weeksy]

MrsTaff has just got off the phone with the chinese take away in town. while she was on the phone she had to wait for a walk in customer to place their order, she could hear the converstation between the customer and order taking dude, and the bill came to £170. That's one fucking big family living under one Tier 4 roof

Your take away will be ready mid Feb then!

[Skub]

TBH if I was an irresponsible 20 year old again I'd want to be out partying with my mates.

Though when I was an irresponsible 20 year old there seemed to be a lot more policing happening than there is now.

This is something we 'forget' as the years pile on.

If I'm being perfectly honest,the 20 year old me wouldn't be giving a shit about Covid rules or any restrictions,so it would be more than a little dishonest of me to get too self righteous.

[slowsider]

Why do people not grasp the situation ?

A lot of people are below the mean average intelligence.

I'm not having that.... I'm not having it that people can't comprehnd the numbers of dead and think "oh, that could be me"

There's not being intelligent and there's being downright fucking stupid... They can't be THAT stupid....

I dunno, i'm just struggling with the whole concept that people are going round to houses, throwing parties, meeting up, etc... I mean, come on, i'm not having it.

It follows a long period where people were conditioned not to listen to experts, exhorted to 'take back control' from faceless elites, and as I mentioned earlier, leaders not leading. do you really expect people to suddenly pivot to a position of social responsibility?

[Noggin]

I know I met up with friends on Christmas Day - 9 adults, 2 kids - but at that point the resort had been pretty quiet until a couple of days before and none of us were socialising with anyone else. So it felt pretty ok (the bubble thing)

The couple I meet for hot wine on the snow front - we keep distance and put masks back as soon as the wine is finished (well, they smoke, so theirs are off more)


What I'm struggling with is the sheer number of grockles that aren't wearing them or aren't wearing them properly. Despite signs around saying they must be worn at all times. Where are the Police Municipale? Why don't the grockles care?

Yes I don't wear mine if I'm walking on the mountain alone - but as soon as someone comes into sight, I do put it back on


I know a few people who've had and recovered from Covid. I'm pretty sure I had the mildest case in the world ever back in March. Equally I have two friends who are struggling for breath if they walk up a flight of stairs - not something they had an issue with pre covid. It isn't just people dying, it's people having to live with long term issues that is also scary.


In general I know people here are pretty good - it's the people on holiday who aren't following the rules WTF?


Business owners and seasonaires up here just want the resort to open - but other resorts (in other countries) have proved that queue management isn't possible. Is it really better to open the lifts and get tourists (and their lurgies) in or should we accept that the season won't happen and deal with it?

But, as Weeksy said - how do you get people to care, follow the rules etc. I was definitely blasé at the start but conversations with a few friends made me take it a bit more seriously. And right now, despite being healthy, I don't want to go outside anywhere that there are grockles. I don't want to be near people!! I need to see my physio 3 times a week and TBH I want to make sure I'm not a carrier so that hopefully he doesn't get it!! Wonder if his other patients think that way??

Not sure anyone has the answer

[moth]

In general I know people here are pretty good - it's the people on holiday who aren't following the rules WTF?

Because they're on holiday, and they can leave their shit in someone else's yard. Did you hear about the mass exit of Brits from Verbier earlier in the week?

Fucking idiots.

[Noggin]

In general I know people here are pretty good - it's the people on holiday who aren't following the rules WTF?

Because they're on holiday, and they can leave their shit in someone else's yard. Did you hear about the mass exit of Brits from Verbier earlier in the week?

Fucking idiots.

I know and it makes me really angry tbh! The chances of us having open lifts by end of Jan are reducing due to all the grockles coming in - even though proper skiing is out

And yes, I read about the Verbier disappearances. Totally stupid thing is that to check in you have to give passport info and address. And the address will be part of the booking.
If the Swiss wanted to, they could track down everyone of those people. Ok, not sure what they could do. But why didn't these people think about why they were being asked to stay put?? Fuckwits all

[irie]

I know I met up with friends on Christmas Day - 9 adults, 2 kids - but at that point the resort had been pretty quiet until a couple of days before and none of us were socialising with anyone else. So it felt pretty ok (the bubble thing)

The couple I meet for hot wine on the snow front - we keep distance and put masks back as soon as the wine is finished (well, they smoke, so theirs are off more)


What I'm struggling with is the sheer number of grockles that aren't wearing them or aren't wearing them properly. Despite signs around saying they must be worn at all times. Where are the Police Municipale? Why don't the grockles care?

Yes I don't wear mine if I'm walking on the mountain alone - but as soon as someone comes into sight, I do put it back on

I know a few people who've had and recovered from Covid. I'm pretty sure I had the mildest case in the world ever back in March. Equally I have two friends who are struggling for breath if they walk up a flight of stairs - not something they had an issue with pre covid. It isn't just people dying, it's people having to live with long term issues that is also scary.

In general I know people here are pretty good - it's the people on holiday who aren't following the rules WTF?

Business owners and seasonaires up here just want the resort to open - but other resorts (in other countries) have proved that queue management isn't possible. Is it really better to open the lifts and get tourists (and their lurgies) in or should we accept that the season won't happen and deal with it?

But, as Weeksy said - how do you get people to care, follow the rules etc. I was definitely blasé at the start but conversations with a few friends made me take it a bit more seriously. And right now, despite being healthy, I don't want to go outside anywhere that there are grockles. I don't want to be near people!! I need to see my physio 3 times a week and TBH I want to make sure I'm not a carrier so that hopefully he doesn't get it!! Wonder if his other patients think that way??

Not sure anyone has the answer

It seems that you didn't follow the rules ...

I know I met up with friends on Christmas Day - 9 adults, 2 kids

... so why should you expect others to do so?

[Noggin]

It seems that you didn't follow the rules ...

I know I met up with friends on Christmas Day - 9 adults, 2 kids

... so why should you expect others to do so?

The guidelines here -

Meet people - socialising is now allowed after being banned completely during lockdown. Unlike in other countries there are no 'bubbles' or rules on maximum households in France, although the government is recommending that people limit social interactions as much as possible (see below).

Rule of six - the suggested maximum for gatherings in private places is six adults, plus children. This is a recommendation and not a rule as an earlier attempt to impose a limit on gatherings in private places such as homes was struck out by France's Constitutional Council. Nonetheless the government asks that you keep gatherings in the home as small as possible.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20201217/what-c ... d-19-rules

Given that we were in a 30 person chalet with space for 30 people, we had a fair bit of space. These are people that live here and want the season to start, so we do all follow the mask and distance rules and it was the first time most of us had seen each other indoors since March!!

Extremely unusually - no hugging and no bisous

[irie]

It seems that you didn't follow the rules ...

I know I met up with friends on Christmas Day - 9 adults, 2 kids

... so why should you expect others to do so?

The guidelines here -

Meet people - socialising is now allowed after being banned completely during lockdown. Unlike in other countries there are no 'bubbles' or rules on maximum households in France, although the government is recommending that people limit social interactions as much as possible (see below).

Rule of six - the suggested maximum for gatherings in private places is six adults, plus children. This is a recommendation and not a rule as an earlier attempt to impose a limit on gatherings in private places such as homes was struck out by France's Constitutional Council. Nonetheless the government asks that you keep gatherings in the home as small as possible.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20201217/what-c ... d-19-rules

Given that we were in a 30 person chalet with space for 30 people, we had a fair bit of space. These are people that live here and want the season to start, so we do all follow the mask and distance rules and it was the first time most of us had seen each other indoors since March!!

Extremely unusually - no hugging and no bisous

Oh.

[Noggin]

It seems that you didn't follow the rules ...



... so why should you expect others to do so?

The guidelines here -

Meet people - socialising is now allowed after being banned completely during lockdown. Unlike in other countries there are no 'bubbles' or rules on maximum households in France, although the government is recommending that people limit social interactions as much as possible (see below).

Rule of six - the suggested maximum for gatherings in private places is six adults, plus children. This is a recommendation and not a rule as an earlier attempt to impose a limit on gatherings in private places such as homes was struck out by France's Constitutional Council. Nonetheless the government asks that you keep gatherings in the home as small as possible.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20201217/what-c ... d-19-rules

Given that we were in a 30 person chalet with space for 30 people, we had a fair bit of space. These are people that live here and want the season to start, so we do all follow the mask and distance rules and it was the first time most of us had seen each other indoors since March!!

Extremely unusually - no hugging and no bisous

I know I met up with friends on Christmas Day - 9 adults, 2 kids

Oh.

Did you read anything after the bit you put in BOLD?

It is followed by - This is a recommendation and not a rule

Pretty sure most people met up in far bigger groups here over Christmas in private houses. Also pretty damn sure we were the least touchy feely group in the whole area (give a French some wine and the bisous start regardless of the risks)

Also - whilst 'bubbles' don't exist here, as expats that aren't currently working, we are in our own bubble


Is this just an attempt to make me seem stupid or something?

We HAVEN'T broken any rules and we WERE all careful with minimal contact and no kissing/hugging

Just because the rules here are different to the UK doesn't make me and my friends into illegal partygoers

And I will continue to be pissed off with the grockles that are putting my friends businesses (and worst case their lives) at risk

[Hoonercat]

15 of us going to a mate's house tomorrow at noon for BBQ and beers to welcome in the New Year. If it gets a bit chilly come early evening he's got a lovely bar in the garden with a wood burner. Mmmm, cozy
Yes I know it's New Year's Day and not New Year's Eve, but Friday trumps everything.

[Dodgy69]

I do believe the UK does have a good share of the western world's uneducated, ill disciplined, mongy sorts, but, it ain't being helped by very complicated tier systems that many of us haven't
understand.

If the rules were black and white, in or out then folk can't blame others. If the country was in sync, all doing the same, it may of helped, but different bits doing different thinks ain't working. Folk will bend the rules, cross the borders, etc.

To be in this situation one year on, positive covid numbers, nightingales, sick hospital staff, really does show poor leadership. If it was company management under the spotlight, they would no longer be with the business , probably wishing them all the best for the future, maybe after a spell of gardening.

Happy New year.

[weeksy]

I do believe the UK does have a good share of the western world's uneducated, ill disciplined, mongy sorts, but, it ain't being helped by very complicated tier systems that many of us haven't
understand.

If the rules were black and white, in or out then folk can't blame others. If the country was in sync, all doing the same, it may of helped, but different bits doing different thinks ain't working. Folk will bend the rules, cross the borders, etc.

To be in this situation one year on, positive covid numbers, nightingales, sick hospital staff, really does show poor leadership. If it was company management under the spotlight, they would no longer be with the business , probably wishing them all the best for the future, maybe after a spell of gardening.

Happy New year.

Tbf mate, they're not fucking hard to follow.

It's 90% common sense mostly.

The figures of "meet 6 people" or whatever are not goals or targets, it's a case of 'see as few as possible' surely?

I don't see why so many HAVE to see others.

[Mussels]

In general I know people here are pretty good - it's the people on holiday who aren't following the rules WTF?

Because they're on holiday, and they can leave their shit in someone else's yard. Did you hear about the mass exit of Brits from Verbier earlier in the week?

Fucking idiots.

If you open up your resort for holidays what type of people do you expect to attract? I doubt it's those that care about stopping the virus.

[irie]

The guidelines here -

Meet people - socialising is now allowed after being banned completely during lockdown. Unlike in other countries there are no 'bubbles' or rules on maximum households in France, although the government is recommending that people limit social interactions as much as possible (see below).

Rule of six - the suggested maximum for gatherings in private places is six adults, plus children. This is a recommendation and not a rule as an earlier attempt to impose a limit on gatherings in private places such as homes was struck out by France's Constitutional Council. Nonetheless the government asks that you keep gatherings in the home as small as possible.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20201217/what-c ... d-19-rules

Given that we were in a 30 person chalet with space for 30 people, we had a fair bit of space. These are people that live here and want the season to start, so we do all follow the mask and distance rules and it was the first time most of us had seen each other indoors since March!!

Extremely unusually - no hugging and no bisous

I know I met up with friends on Christmas Day - 9 adults, 2 kids

Oh.

Did you read anything after the bit you put in BOLD?

It is followed by - This is a recommendation and not a rule

Pretty sure most people met up in far bigger groups here over Christmas in private houses. Also pretty damn sure we were the least touchy feely group in the whole area (give a French some wine and the bisous start regardless of the risks)

Also - whilst 'bubbles' don't exist here, as expats that aren't currently working, we are in our own bubble


Is this just an attempt to make me seem stupid or something?

We HAVEN'T broken any rules and we WERE all careful with minimal contact and no kissing/hugging

Just because the rules here are different to the UK doesn't make me and my friends into illegal partygoers

And I will continue to be pissed off with the grockles that are putting my friends businesses (and worst case their lives) at risk

Yes, I did read what you said, thanks.

[Dodgy69]

I do believe the UK does have a good share of the western world's uneducated, ill disciplined, mongy sorts, but, it ain't being helped by very complicated tier systems that many of us haven't
understand.

If the rules were black and white, in or out then folk can't blame others. If the country was in sync, all doing the same, it may of helped, but different bits doing different thinks ain't working. Folk will bend the rules, cross the borders, etc.

To be in this situation one year on, positive covid numbers, nightingales, sick hospital staff, really does show poor leadership. If it was company management under the spotlight, they would no longer be with the business , probably wishing them all the best for the future, maybe after a spell of gardening.

Happy New year.

Tbf mate, they're not fucking hard to follow.

It's 90% common sense mostly.

The figures of "meet 6 people" or whatever are not goals or targets, it's a case of 'see as few as possible' surely?

I don't see why so many HAVE to see others.

If you give an inch...