Dodgy knees wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:03 pm
But thats always been the case, why the upsurge.
The new strain seems a lot easier to pass on.
In what way.
The simple answer is, we've not been told yet. I'm hoping we find out soon but we as the general public haven't got that information.
I'm being very strict and cautious personally but I've got a few things in the coming weeks that mean I'll be in contact with others and it troubles me.
I went to my private hospital this morning and there was no hand cleaner as I walked in. And we all shared the same pen to sign the paperwork (eek).
I did see a few bottles after doors etc, but were hard to see. But the doctors and nurses didn't seem too perturbed.
But we only have one covid case in hospital now. That's good, but we shouldn't get complacent.
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Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:40 pm
Makes you wonder if it really is easier to transmit, or whether it’s the result of a tired population, cheesed at restrictions, guard dropping etc etc
I'm honestly not seeing it and even if some are dropping the ball I certainly don't think it's of the numbers that are now being seen infected. It's just too many for it to be purely down to rule breaking
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:40 pm
Makes you wonder if it really is easier to transmit, or whether it’s the result of a tired population, cheesed at restrictions, guard dropping etc etc
I'm honestly not seeing it and even if some are dropping the ball I certainly don't think it's of the numbers that are now being seen infected. It's just too many for it to be purely down to rule breaking
Well if the numbers are to be believes we're outstripping what happened in April, so either everyone is as lax as they were back then or the new strain is more infectious? Or somewhere in the middle.
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:02 pm
Well going on what I see, there is no lockdown, most people have all but given up with social distancing (even shop staff brush past you now).
People are taking partners and kids shopping, kids are gathered in the local parks, hanging around town...
I’d say lockdown has totally broken down for a huge swathe of the population.
I'm glad I don't live near you. I'm seeing the polar opposite
That said, Sainsbury car park was packed the other day when passing
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:40 pm
Makes you wonder if it really is easier to transmit, or whether it’s the result of a tired population, cheesed at restrictions, guard dropping etc etc
It might be, but how could you tell?
Here is sleepy West Berkshire our daily count of positive tests has gone ballistic over the last few weeks.
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NB figures for the Christmas period (national) are not perfect, so that might account for the variation over the last few days.
As for social distancing, it is being taken seriously (except some of Tesco's delightful customers).
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:02 pm
Well going on what I see, there is no lockdown, most people have all but given up with social distancing (even shop staff brush past you now).
People are taking partners and kids shopping, kids are gathered in the local parks, hanging around town...
I’d say lockdown has totally broken down for a huge swathe of the population.
I'm glad I don't live near you. I'm seeing the polar opposite
That said, Sainsbury car park was packed the other day when passing
If you look closely you’ll notice it I’m sure....
The graphs also closely follow lockdown/release with a bit of lag as you would expect.
Not saying I know, I don’t, but I bet there is hell of a lot of shoulder shrugging going on...
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:40 pm
Makes you wonder if it really is easier to transmit, or whether it’s the result of a tired population, cheesed at restrictions, guard dropping etc etc
It would seem a fair slice of the population have decided the restrictions are more of a ballache than the chances of catching the pox,so they are increasingly deciding to do as they please. If enough people disobey a law,the law becomes irrelevant and we are now close to that scenario.
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:02 pm
Well going on what I see, there is no lockdown, most people have all but given up with social distancing (even shop staff brush past you now).
People are taking partners and kids shopping, kids are gathered in the local parks, hanging around town...
I’d say lockdown has totally broken down for a huge swathe of the population.
I'm glad I don't live near you. I'm seeing the polar opposite
That said, Sainsbury car park was packed the other day when passing
If you look closely you’ll notice it I’m sure....
The graphs also closely follow lockdown/release with a bit of lag as you would expect.
Not saying I know, I don’t, but I bet there is hell of a lot of shoulder shrugging going on...
I can't, I don't go anywhere. When passing supermarket that was the first time I've been outside the village in a month. (Apart from cycling)
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:09 pm
If you look closely you’ll notice it I’m sure....
The graphs also closely follow lockdown/release with a bit of lag as you would expect.
Well, lockdown ended Dec 4th didn't it? So people listed here for the 7th would presumably have been tested on the 6th, so exposed a day or to - at least - before for incubation.
IIRC from history lessons..
It appears to be mirroring the Spanish Flu of 1918(?)
First go around early in the year wasn't too bad, then it mutated & came back a few months later & wiped out millions. The people who got it during the first wave didn't have any problems with the later wave.
It appears our Governor Il Douche Nero Newsolini is absolutely bloody clueless. Calizuela is locked down with surging cases, Florida is open for biz & isn't having a surge.
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:09 pm
If you look closely you’ll notice it I’m sure....
The graphs also closely follow lockdown/release with a bit of lag as you would expect.
Well, lockdown ended Dec 4th didn't it? So people listed here for the 7th would presumably have been tested on the 6th, so exposed a day or to - at least - before for incubation.
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Lockdown hasn't ended in my world, but seems I may be the exception
Wreckless Rat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:09 pm
If you look closely you’ll notice it I’m sure....
The graphs also closely follow lockdown/release with a bit of lag as you would expect.
Well, lockdown ended Dec 4th didn't it? So people listed here for the 7th would presumably have been tested on the 6th, so exposed a day or to - at least - before for incubation.
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Lockdown hasn't ended in my world, but seems I may be the exception
Not the current restrictions, instead the Nov-Dec 4th set.
ZRX61 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:44 pm
Because "Republicans will exploit the numbers to downplay Covid"..
Perish the thought!
Forgot to mention that some of the initial reasons she gave for the County & State not reporting recovery numbers included they were "not important" *insignificant" "utterly meaningless* & even "have no bearing on the number of people who are infected":... which is obviously total bollocks & she got called out for it.
She even got rather condescending & said "You don't know what you are talking about, we have statistics, what do you have?" when people were specifically asking her for the fucking stats.
We have sort of been told why the new strain is spreading, this new strain seems to be passed easily amongst teenagers so it would seem likely that they got it at school and brought it home, plus the fact that the youth have not social distanced as much as adults and when they weren’t getting it, it didn’t really matter.
Dodgy knees wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:12 pm
How are all these people catching covid. The majority are all social distancing and wearing masks. Must be spreading a new way.
Based upon a recent conversation I don't know the answer. This person has been 100% compliant yet still tested positive. It's a bit of a mystery.
I think that one of the reasons why reported infections are increasing is because the PCR test is so sensitive that it also detects dead virus debris. So the more people who have successfully fought off the virus are tested the more positive tests are reported.
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people." - Giordano Bruno
Dodgy knees wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:12 pm
How are all these people catching covid. The majority are all social distancing and wearing masks. Must be spreading a new way.
Based upon a recent conversation I don't know the answer. This person has been 100% compliant yet still tested positive. It's a bit of a mystery.
I think that one of the reasons why reported infections are increasing is because the PCR test is so sensitive that it also detects dead virus debris. So the more people who have successfully fought off the virus are tested the more positive tests are reported.
Ok, but if the figures are believed, there's still a huge number of people taking up the beds, so the numbers of sick has also gone up dramatically?
JamJar wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:00 pm
We have sort of been told why the new strain is spreading, this new strain seems to be passed easily amongst teenagers so it would seem likely that they got it at school and brought it home, plus the fact that the youth have not social distanced as much as adults and when they weren’t getting it, it didn’t really matter.
US media is making a big deal out of this particular strain from the UK.. & then a few days ago mentioned they have also found at least 2 dozen different strains in the US & aren't concerned about those at all...
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