Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[Dodgy69]

☝ it's a great idea.

Thought there was a bit more to it than staff absence.

[weeksy]

☝ it's a great idea.

Thought there was a bit more to it than staff absence.

I don't know if it actually decreases the risk in transmission, but for me just having the staff not keeling over themselves has to be enough of a benefit.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Listening to radio 2 today's discussion is about compulsory jabs for NHS staff. My question is, if you can still spread it after you've been jabbed, what difference does it make.

it reduces the consequences of complications therefore time off work. Jabbing the nurses can't be a bad idea.

It's a bad idea if you believe in freedom and personal choice.

[weeksy]

Listening to radio 2 today's discussion is about compulsory jabs for NHS staff. My question is, if you can still spread it after you've been jabbed, what difference does it make.

it reduces the consequences of complications therefore time off work. Jabbing the nurses can't be a bad idea.

It's a bad idea if you believe in freedom and personal choice.

You'd assume the people in the NHS are 'caring' and caring about the patients they're looking after, so would see decreasing the risk of them getting ill as a good thing ?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

it reduces the consequences of complications therefore time off work. Jabbing the nurses can't be a bad idea.

It's a bad idea if you believe in freedom and personal choice.

You'd assume the people in the NHS are 'caring' and caring about the patients they're looking after, so would see decreasing the risk of them getting ill as a good thing ?

I'm not looking at it from a purely NHS perspective, I don't think people should be forced to have vaccinations to keep their jobs no matter where they work.

Unfortunately the most likely place to catch Covid is a hospital or a care home, so I can also see the sense in getting the staff there vaccinated - so my objection is more of a principle thing, rather than a "I don't think vaccinations work" thing.

[Dodgy69]

I'm definitely pro jab and I would rather take advice from Jonathon van tam than Johny off Facebook. The confusing bit is who spreads it. They seem to make out vaccinated folk don't spread it and non vaccinated do.

[weeksy]

It's a bad idea if you believe in freedom and personal choice.

You'd assume the people in the NHS are 'caring' and caring about the patients they're looking after, so would see decreasing the risk of them getting ill as a good thing ?

I'm not looking at it from a purely NHS perspective, I don't think people should be forced to have vaccinations to keep their jobs no matter where they work.

Unfortunately the most likely place to catch Covid is a hospital or a care home, so I can also see the sense in getting the staff there vaccinated - so my objection is more of a principle thing, rather than a "I don't think vaccinations work" thing.

I hear you, but it's not like they're a bunch of it needs infecting another bunch of it nerds

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I'm definitely pro jab and I would rather take advice from Jonathon van tam than Johny off Facebook. The confusing bit is who spreads it. They seem to make out vaccinated folk don't spread it and non vaccinated do.

I believe whether your vaccinated or not you can still spread it, the vaccination reduces your chances of being hospitalised or dying.

But I don't think the Government are listening to scientists, it appears to be more a case of Boris wanting to be popular with the press.

[Horse]

Jabbing the nurses can't be a bad idea.

How many posts since this, but no comments?

[Docca]

Hopefully millions. This isn’t carry on matron.

Also jabs; it won’t reduce your risk of transmitting, but your chance of ending up prone in ITU.

Wearing a seatbelt won’t stop you from crashing, but will reduce your risk of serious injury. Etc.

I think healthcare workers should have the jab. I think everyone should have the jab. My kids have had their vaccinations.

Personal choice can go fuck itself.

[irie]

Hopefully millions. This isn’t carry on matron.

Also jabs; it won’t reduce your risk of transmitting, but your chance of ending up prone in ITU.

Wearing a seatbelt won’t stop you from crashing, but will reduce your risk of serious injury. Etc.

I think healthcare workers should have the jab. I think everyone should have the jab. My kids have had their vaccinations.

Personal choice can go fuck itself.

If you are vaccinated you are far less likely to contract Covid-19 and are therefore far less likely to transmit the disease to others than if you were not vaccinated.

For example:

https://patient.info/news-and-features/ ... g-infected

Does being vaccinated against COVID-19 stop you getting infected?

People who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are far less likely to become infected and infect others, even with the arrival of the delta and delta plus variants.

[Taff]

It's a bad idea if you believe in freedom and personal choice.

You'd assume the people in the NHS are 'caring' and caring about the patients they're looking after, so would see decreasing the risk of them getting ill as a good thing ?

I'm not looking at it from a purely NHS perspective, I don't think people should be forced to have vaccinations to keep their jobs no matter where they work.

This is exactly what happens is the military. If you're deploying outside of the UK, the scab lifters come around with a big box of needles and start jabbing everyone in sight. No discussion.

When you think you're free and about to retire, they refuse to sign your leaving routine chit until you're up to date with whatever vaccines they have on the list.

[Dodgy69]

Hopefully millions. This isn’t carry on matron.

Also jabs; it won’t reduce your risk of transmitting, but your chance of ending up prone in ITU.

Wearing a seatbelt won’t stop you from crashing, but will reduce your risk of serious injury. Etc.

I think healthcare workers should have the jab. I think everyone should have the jab. My kids have had their vaccinations.

Personal choice can go fuck itself.

If you are vaccinated you are far less likely to contract Covid-19 and are therefore far less likely to transmit the disease to others than if you were not vaccinated.

For example:

https://patient.info/news-and-features/ ... g-infected

Does being vaccinated against COVID-19 stop you getting infected?

People who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are far less likely to become infected and infect others, even with the arrival of the delta and delta plus variants.

Didn't know that. I think the press should make a bigger issue of this, therefore putting the pressure on those non vaccs.

[weeksy]

Hopefully millions. This isn’t carry on matron.

Also jabs; it won’t reduce your risk of transmitting, but your chance of ending up prone in ITU.

Wearing a seatbelt won’t stop you from crashing, but will reduce your risk of serious injury. Etc.

I think healthcare workers should have the jab. I think everyone should have the jab. My kids have had their vaccinations.

Personal choice can go fuck itself.

If you are vaccinated you are far less likely to contract Covid-19 and are therefore far less likely to transmit the disease to others than if you were not vaccinated.

For example:

https://patient.info/news-and-features/ ... g-infected

Does being vaccinated against COVID-19 stop you getting infected?

People who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are far less likely to become infected and infect others, even with the arrival of the delta and delta plus variants.

Didn't know that. I think the press should make a bigger issue of this, therefore putting the pressure on those non vaccs.

I'm betting that depends on what articles you read... i'll bet that there's just as many articles say no than say yes....

[MrLongbeard]

It's dead simple, the NHS withholds certain treatments from smokers because they are making themselves ill, the NHS also withholds certain treatments from the obese, so if you refuse a vaccine for non medical reasons you're on your own

[DefTrap]

I'm betting that depends on what articles you read... i'll bet that there's just as many articles say no than say yes....

Of course there are - but 'the man' is hiding them from you and isn't showing them to you no matter how hard you search for the evidence on YouTube.

[DefTrap]

My S-I-L (anti-vaxxer, 60s) now thinks she has it because her BF has tested positive.
It's possible we won't know for sure because I'm fairly certain she's anti-testing as well.
She's also anti-job, anti-responsibility but really pro taking-the-piss.

If she wasn't a relly I'd find it much more amusing.

She was 'in trouble' breathing and was briefly hospitalized but thankfully seems to be on the mend.
I think there was a brief "I'm going to get vaccinated now because I can't go through this again" moment but once the symptoms have died down I strongly believe she'll feel vindicated in 'having an opinion' about both the virus and vaccines.

[Dodgy69]

My wife's niece works in social care and is anti vax. I'd put her low end of IQ scale, she's still working.

[weeksy]

My wife's niece works in social care and is anti vax. I'd put her low end of IQ scale, she's still working.

Sounds great, any pics ?

[Dodgy69]

My wife's niece works in social care and is anti vax. I'd put her low end of IQ scale, she's still working.

Sounds great, any pics ?

It'd blind you.