Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

[DefTrap]

Doctors and nurses have for many years.

Doctors and nurses, well yeah maybe they have bought into it because of their profession.
Supermarket checkout people and the postman? Maybe less interested in the common weal.

[Yorick]

To be honest, if I could find someone who was prepared to do ALL my shopping visits then I'd rarely have to wear a mask these days - being able to go back into restaurants has been great.
I feel mega sorry for those who do work in these places who are likely to be masked up forever.

Doctors and nurses have for many years.

They signed up for that gig. The rest of us didn't.

I hate masks with a vengance.

The police should make ugly fuckers like you wear a mask all the time

[Supermofo]

Went into Tottenham Court Road yesterday for a meeting in our head office. I reckon about 85-90% of people on tube/train were wearing masks. Round here (Hertford) very few seem to bother now in shops etc.

[Asian Boss]

I'll tell you what else you can forget about. All that Covid bollocks, alright?

[Horse]

This one has unexpected implications:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58928792

The head of the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) has ordered an investigation into why it took a month to identify a laboratory giving incorrect Covid test results.

Dr Jenny Harries said it was "not clear yet" what went wrong at the private lab in Wolverhampton.

About 43,000 people in England and Wales may have been wrongly told their Covid-19 test was negative.

Testing at the lab has been suspended and those affected are being contacted.

Concerns were raised when people had positive lateral flow tests (LFTs), but negative follow-up PCR results from the lab between 8 September and 12 October. Most of those affected live in the south-west of England.

The error could mean thousands of people infected with Covid were wrongly told to stop isolating, and may have infected others.

Ok, that's bad enough. It was in the local news because it was the West Berkshire test centre. Then it made BBC national news today. But locally the story has moved on ...

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/cou ... a-9220986/

West Berkshire Council is being accused of not looking after its own residents after taking more than a week to announce false negative Covid tests at Newbury Showground.

[Count Steer]

Dr Jenny Harries said it was "not clear yet" what went wrong at the private lab in Wolverhampton.

Put that into google translate:

Government stooge said "we are working frantically behind the scenes to making sure that none of the fallout from this comes anywhere near us, not taking questions on how the contract was awarded and making sure there are no awkward links between the private lab owners and anyone in Government".

[irie]

Dr Jenny Harries said it was "not clear yet" what went wrong at the private lab in Wolverhampton.

Put that into google translate:

Government stooge said "we are working frantically behind the scenes to making sure that none of the fallout from this comes anywhere near us, not taking questions on how the contract was awarded and making sure there are no awkward links between the private lab owners and anyone in Government".

It might be a case of a government cover up, but I suspect that if you understood more about the technology behind PCR tests, and in particular the problem with test cycle thresholds, you would perhaps not make the above statement until more is known.

[Count Steer]

Dr Jenny Harries said it was "not clear yet" what went wrong at the private lab in Wolverhampton.

Put that into google translate:

Government stooge said "we are working frantically behind the scenes to making sure that none of the fallout from this comes anywhere near us, not taking questions on how the contract was awarded and making sure there are no awkward links between the private lab owners and anyone in Government".

It might be a case of a government cover up, but I suspect that if you understood more about the technology behind PCR tests, and in particular the problem with test cycle thresholds, you would perhaps not make the above statement until more is known.

I didn't say it is a government cover up. I said they were checking in case they needed to. (Y'know, after the PPE contracts with the local ex-publican and all that sort of thing).

[Horse]

Dr Jenny Harries said it was "not clear yet" what went wrong at the private lab in Wolverhampton.

Put that into google translate:

Government stooge said "we are working frantically behind the scenes to making sure that none of the fallout from this comes anywhere near us, not taking questions on how the contract was awarded and making sure there are no awkward links between the private lab owners and anyone in Government".

It might be a case of a government cover up, but I suspect that if you understood more about the technology behind PCR tests, and in particular the problem with test cycle thresholds, you would perhaps not make the above statement until more is known.

So what are you suggesting happened? And, if the people who do know about test cycle thresholds know about this stuff, how did it happen?

[Yambo]

Last week, friends of mine went back to the UK for a couple of weeks. Five days after they arrived back in the UK they were told that someone who travelled on the same plane had tested positive and that they would hve to isolate for 10 days. That's really good when they've only gone for a couple of weeks.

They asked if they could take the 5 day release PCR test but were told they couldn't as a BionTech vaccine administered in Turkey is not valid. It would appear that it is only good for the air travel. If they fail to isolate they'll be fined £3k. What a crock of absolute shit!

You have to wonder why the UK government authorised the BionTech vaccine given in Turkey but then don’t acknowledge it. I've had 4 vaccinations now, 2 Sinovac and 2 BionTech and I had the BionTech jabs as I might head back to the UK for 10 days or so in November knowing they wouldn't accept the Sinovac ones. But now?

Does the UK right hand have any idea what the UK left hand is doing or is it all as it seems, a total FUBAR clusterfuck?

Tossers.

[irie]

Put that into google translate:

Government stooge said "we are working frantically behind the scenes to making sure that none of the fallout from this comes anywhere near us, not taking questions on how the contract was awarded and making sure there are no awkward links between the private lab owners and anyone in Government".

It might be a case of a government cover up, but I suspect that if you understood more about the technology behind PCR tests, and in particular the problem with test cycle thresholds, you would perhaps not make the above statement until more is known.

I didn't say it is a government cover up. I said they were checking in case they needed to. (Y'know, after the PPE contracts with the local ex-publican and all that sort of thing).

If this is not tantamount to a cover-up ...

A cover-up is an attempt, whether successful or not, to conceal evidence of wrongdoing, error, incompetence or other embarrassing information.

... then I don't know what is!

[Horse]

https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/pup ... e-9221501/

Some pupils in secondary schools in the area have returned to mask-wearing in lessons.

With Covid cases on the rise in the district – and the Newbury Showground site highlighted as one of the centres affected by false negative PCR test issues – schools have been asked to increase precautions for the next week.

[Supermofo]

Looks like we have reached our new normal. I was reading an article highlighting the fact the UK is far worse than the rest of Europe with 45-50k cases a day, the reasons for that and why we aren't kicking off about it or changing our ways. But it looks to me like people want to continue with life as normally as possible and have resigned themselves to a level of cases/hospital admissions.

I must admit I see the numbers in the paper/news reports and sort of block it out now. I wish the numbers were lower but I'm used to it now and just sort of getting on with things. I still wear a mask in shops, use sanitiser and don't mix that much with people but I met up with friends the other weekend (outdoors) and just had a normal afternoon without thinking about Covid.

[weeksy]

I've not looked at the numbers for many many months now. I still don't do the indoor thing much... but this weekend i admit i've got a birthday celebration with 20 people who i'll end up being fairly close with, especially as the night gets on i bet lol

[DefTrap]

For me it's fairly close to normal now. I'll happily be indoors with friends, but not friends of friends really. I'll happily eat indoors in restaurants (it's a state of mind thing, there are strangers about but apparently eating gives you immunity yeah? ). Visiting family members I'll give a free pass to because it's just too painful now to consider keeping them at a distance. I'm not rushing out to return to the cinema, but that's not a huge loss as there's not so much I want to see.

I think it helps if you're not particularly sociable and obvs don't either have a customer facing job or have to work on site with long commutes on public transport.

[gremlin]

I have to confess, I've given up with the mask thing, as have most people I see about in shops and stuff. My bad, I know.

Having spent last week in Italy, where masks are mandatory in indoor spaces and the 'Green Pass' is demanded every time you step into a bar, restaurant or a even gym within a hotel (hotels, for some reason, exempt from having to check the Green Pass status of guests), it would piss on my chips from a great height if we had to take a step back in terms of personal freedom again.
Walking through Florence on my way back to the airport last week, there was a big protest taking place re the measures being put in place in terms of working without being double jabbed and/or rigorous testing. I wasn't sure what the protests were all about, but some very thoughtful protesters had placards written in English, which was nice of them.

Another Covid- related mystery for me is why so many teens are reluctant to get the jab. Case in point, my kid. Her argument that she is scared of needles falls at the first hurdle given her two tattoos and umpteen piercings. I do wonder if it's just more a case of teenage, 'Fuck authority' attitude

[weeksy]

We decided on not sending our 13 year old for CV19 injection, mostly because Mrs Weeksy works closely with doctors who she asked "would you give it to your 13 year old" and they all said no. Partly because of potential longer term issues and partly because the risk even if he got it is so minimal. They are all fully vaccinated as adults though.

[Skub]

The rate at which cases are increasing in the UK,it won't be long before masks are mandatory in crowded areas. The coming Winter will tell a tale.

I've become used to wearing a mask now,I don't even think about it.

[gremlin]

Wonder whether the passport thing might be a very blunt and unsubtle incentive tool for getting the last 5 million or so jab dodgers to go get it. Sitting outside a pub in the middle of November is not fun when all your vaxxed mates are in the warm...

[DefTrap]

Wonder whether the passport thing might be a very blunt and unsubtle incentive tool for getting the last 5 million or so jab dodgers to go get it. Sitting outside a pub in the middle of November is not fun when all your vaxxed mates are in the warm...

Over here my experience locally of the pass thing is that restaurant owners are reluctant to scan everyone in - it's about 60-75% that bother, despite the threat of big fines. So I guess once you know the places that are slack, you just go there?

They've stopped providing PCRs for free out here as well - on the basis that folk were getting them every week to avoid the need to be jabbed.