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Re: Brexit

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The word pessimism doing a lot of heavy lifting in this thread.
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:50 pm The word pessimism doing a lot of heavy lifting in this thread.
moth wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:50 pm EU

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moth wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:50 pm EU

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Yeah, he's not going to blink.
Oh, he blinked.
Again.
I am surprised.
Remember when Boris told us he was going to get better deals than Theresa May? How did that work out?
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demographic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pm
moth wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:50 pm EU

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Yeah, he's not going to blink.
Oh, he blinked.
Again.
I am surprised.
Remember when Boris told us he was going to get better deals than Theresa May? How did that work out?
Some bollocks about an oven ready deal and then having to admit it was nonsense.
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demographic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pm Remember when Boris told us he was going to get better deals than Theresa May? How did that work out?
Shit. AFAIK May's WA had a clause relating to state aid which would have enabled the UK to re-negotiate it during trade deal talks, Boris's WA didn't, which is why they had to break international law to get around it.
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:35 pm
demographic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pm Remember when Boris told us he was going to get better deals than Theresa May? How did that work out?
Some bollocks about an oven ready deal and then having to admit it was nonsense.
Today's quiz question: Who, in 2019, said ...

"I want to find a deal. I have looked carefully at no-deal. Yes, we could do it, the UK could certainly get through it, but be in no doubt that outcome would be a failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible."
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Horse wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:10 pm
DefTrap wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:35 pm
demographic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pm Remember when Boris told us he was going to get better deals than Theresa May? How did that work out?
Some bollocks about an oven ready deal and then having to admit it was nonsense.
Today's quiz question: Who, in 2019, said ...

"I want to find a deal. I have looked carefully at no-deal. Yes, we could do it, the UK could certainly get through it, but be in no doubt that outcome would be a failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible."
This is modern Trump/Johnson politics for you. Playing at like it was a 6th form debate, grand speeches, abject failure spun into success, telling everyone else that your deficiencies are a product of everyone else's pessimism and lack of patriotism. We're all stuck with him but he got the divs of the EU and he's not Corbyn so yay.
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Any conspiracy theory fans?

Writing in the Diplomat magazine, Jenkin said the group of MPs who destroyed Theresa May’s deal had only voted in favour of Johnson’s because they had been assured the government would ditch the agreement if no trade deal was reached with the European Union.


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demographic wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pmYeah, he's not going to blink.
Oh, he blinked.
Again.
I am surprised.
Remember when Boris told us he was going to get better deals than Theresa May? How did that work out?
I remember somebody saying "no deal is better than a bad deal". Well, Theresa May's deal was a bad deal so...
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The sun will always rise tomorrow :thumbup:
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1888 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:46 pm The sun will always rise tomorrow :thumbup:
Indeed, it's just coming up now, I was inclined to engage with these bitter gentlemen throwing their poo at the fence, but my wife has just asked me to take her fishing on our boat, so I'll finish my coffee and slip the lines.

Still fighting Thatcher :clap:
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1888 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:46 pm The sun will always rise tomorrow :thumbup:
I'm glad it's you reminding us. If it had been Boris then we'd be stocking up on candles and batteries :)
Harry wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:27 am bitter gentlemen throwing their poo at the fence
Bitter? Don't know about that. Angry, disappointed, plenty of other terms that might apply.

But our poo? No, it's Boris' pearls of wisdom.

Have a good day, with a tasty catch.
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:35 pm
This is modern Trump/Johnson politics for you. Playing at like it was a 6th form debate, grand speeches, abject failure spun into success, telling everyone else that your deficiencies are a product of everyone else's pessimism and lack of patriotism. We're all stuck with him but he got the divs of the EU and he's not Corbyn so yay
There's always been spin, it is just a bit (a lot) more front can centre now. Is that better/worse than Campbell for example? I doubt Johnson is any more/less honest than any other PM. :D

You get the politicians you deserve.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:06 am
You get the politicians you deserve.
We, the British public, voted for - or allowed others to vote for - a party who had placed at its helm, and in turn into the highest elected office in the country, a man who is a serial liar, serial philanderer, has been sacked twice for incompetence, has been convicted in the highest court in the land of misleading our monarch etc. etc.

We are reaping what we have sown....
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Yeah but he's chummy and charmingly buffoonish...

Not like those elites. Alexander Graham Borris Depfe...whatever his name is, is a real person.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:06 amThere's always been spin, it is just a bit (a lot) more front can centre now. Is that better/worse than Campbell for example? I doubt Johnson is any more/less honest than any other PM. :D

You get the politicians you deserve.
"Front can centre" :?:

Is that a typo, auto-correct or an egg corn? (Your public needs to know. ;))
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If I know anything about marketing it's that mystery and suspense gets people coming back.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:39 am If I know anything about marketing it's that mystery and suspense gets people coming back.
Tell us more.

Tomorrow :)
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Who goes snap, crackle and pop?

I'll tell you tomorrow, it's a serial.