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Re: Coronavirus and Living

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1888 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:48 pm Worked since the beginning and had to meet people
Excepting a 3wk furlough I've been doing the same in a face to face role around the densely populated Central/East & North London postcodes. Working for a big London Organization who've had well over 30 Staff succumb permanently to Covid 19 you're constantly reminded that despite not being able to quite comprehend how we can be vulnerable to such a silly concept as a modern day plague, we are all involuntary players in a grand game of Russian roulette. Though from my department we've only had two die. Of the several hospitalized only one I know well (slim build, early 60's but you'd describe him as 'fit as a fiddle'') he was an early adopter attention seeker, was blue lighted to hospital very early on, was in for a couple of months and spent a lot of that time on a ventilator, he came home a few weeks ago but looks destroyed (think Japanese prisoner of War), a couple of severely disabled people I know (through work) in their 30's have had it (really bad) and thankfully fought their way through, others haven't. It's real, but at the same time unreal

I'm too ridiculous to worry too much about catching CV19 myself, probably as, like many I believe I had a light but horrible dose back in January and use that as crotch for my delusion of invulnerability. However, despite being generally of the laissez faire type personality I could not live with myself inadvertently infecting someone else so I politely adhere to the current social conventions despite others not doing so, you never know who you're going to share space with nor how susceptible they may be
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I am reasonably worried. I'm not particularly at risk but I am pressured into going to the office in London and my kids are back at school so if it does pick up in the South east then there's a good chance I'll be exposed. People who moaned the rules were too complicated are now complaining they are unfair so it's pretty obvious they will ignore any rules that don't suit them.
I guess I'm in the group that doesn't think it is a totally in my control whether I get it.
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:23 pm Thanks for the answers so far, please keep them coming, I'm trying to see how people feel about the risk.

A further question, if you do feel at risk do you think it's your responsibility to keep yourself safe?
It is everyones responsibility to keep themselves safe.

I am older than most of you (even Moth!) and have 2 relatively serious health issues. Catching Covid would be a fairly serious risk, but as I see it if I am that worried I could go into hermit mode and sterilize everything that comes through the door. That would be incredibly boring, so i chose to accept some risk. My choice, my risk, my problem if it goes tits up.

Having said that, wild horses could not drag me into a busy city centre pub on a Friday night. I accept some risk, but I am choosy.
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:35 am How many people on here are worried about catching Coronavirus and it causing them serious harm?

Personally I'm not worried, I live in an area of low population density, don't mix with many people and I think if I do get it I won't be badly effected, despite being 53 and over weight, but in the end shit happens and I have to die of something.
I wouldn't say I was "worried" about it but I am certainly doing everything I can to avoid catching it. For as long as that is reasonably practical. Not too difficult because I have been socially isolating for ten years or so. Possibly longer. In February I acquired 5 litres of IPA and mixed up a batch of sanitiser which I keep in a spray bottle for the house and a portable one I keep with me at all times. While COVID-19 may be nothing like 'flu, you can take the same steps to try and avoid catching it. One of those steps I suggest is not to share a publicly available bottle of sanitiser with the general public.

I have little doubt if I did become infected, it would probably be fatal. I have some weirdness in my immune system and still being investigated for MS (though the NHS has done fuck all in the last two years except book and cancel MRI scans). Even if I was to survive COVID-19 and dodge the possible long term effects, the weeks out of action would destroy my fragile world.

So "worried" no, mindful, yes.
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Re: Coronavirus and Living

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Cousin Jack wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:46 pm
Having said that, wild horses could not drag me into a busy city centre pub on a Friday night. I accept some risk, but I am choosy.
Not a bloody chance. I like a beer or two but not that much. Step daughter went into a pub in the east of Edinburgh a week back wit a friend couple. It was shown to table job and can only order drinks via app/text and its brought to your table. Mask on to get up and pee and still no music in background.
Got the MIL coming up from Manchester at the end of the month for the Wife's birthday. Booking a restaurant for the evening but we are not even looking forward to that. Not for paranoia reasons but more thinking its will be a soulless night with no atmosphere.
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:23 pm Thanks for the answers so far, please keep them coming, I'm trying to see how people feel about the risk.

A further question, if you do feel at risk do you think it's your responsibility to keep yourself safe?
That would be an ecumenical matter :lol:
No, hang on, I am but a spring chicken on here but I still believe in ' personal responsibility'
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I'd rather not get it. I'm 52 and fit enough but I'm not great with colds and flus and this sounds a million times worse. And my missus is asthmatic and shitting herself about it.

Not seeing family is really hard. Being abroad so that I would have to take unnecessary risks of infection even to have a cup of tea in the garden with them is harder. Being restricted on what I can or want to do, eating out and socialising, is now beyond boring.
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Re: Coronavirus and Living

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Screwdriver wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:56 pm In February I acquired 5 litres of IPA
My first thought was "why's he telling us he bought 5 litres of beer?"
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Despite being 69, in good health, in good shape and reasonably strong I don't want to get C19. But then I don't want to get flu (I don't think I've ever had it) or cancer or malaria or run down by a bus or Alzheimer's.

With all that in mind I take reasonable precautions; I keep fit doing both cardio and resistance workouts (over the age of 55 - 60 the body loses muscle mass so I use weights and take extra protein. Muscle helps you to grow old easier). I do puzzles to keep my brain active and I try and stay away from big crowds preferring the countryside and small village life. I've been wearing a mask which is required by law and while it's uncomfortable (temps are still in the low 30°Cs here) it's a basic precaution which I can add to my list of others. I don't wear it all the time as if there is no-one around there's little risk of getting a virus up my nose. If people approach I put it on. It goes on for shops etc.

2020 has changed my life a bit and some of those changes will probably be around for a while yet but they ain't gonna change my outlook, they're not going to change my desire to live a bit longer. I had a heart attack in 2006, it didn't kill me (obviously) but it did tell me that I wasn't ready for entropy just yet.
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Being institutionalised at the mo is interesting. On the one hand we all wear masks except for eating, drinking and pool therapy (but then minimal people in the pool and good distances between us). On the other hand, do all the staff follow guidelines when not at work? Do the patients that go home at weekends?

Currently, the Isere area of France - where I am for now - has gone red again and has implemented the mask rule at all times when out and about

Where I should be is low risk (till winter) and still green



I wasn't worrying too much, as at the start of lockdown I lost taste and smell, had a few days of headache and dry cough, and felt like shit for those few days. Given that I was doing a high risk job and people I did socialse with also did the mad busy pub socialising, it would make sense if the symptoms were some sort of the virus

BUT - if it is flu style then you would be able to get it again as the flu virus mutates


The end result for me is I'll follow the rules and this winter will probably avoid the major seasonnaire party bars when they are at full mentalness. Despite being old and overweight, I'm pretty healthy, so just have to hope that if a full fat version hits me, I will deal with it ok


The absolute worst for me is lack of physical contact. I miss hugs!! Even though I hardly see people I know, I can't get a hug when I do anyway! :( :(
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Re: Coronavirus and Living

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Julian_Boolean wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:18 am
Screwdriver wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:56 pm In February I acquired 5 litres of IPA
My first thought was "why's he telling us he bought 5 litres of beer?"
Flavoured with Aloe Vera and Tea Tree Oil, probably tastes better than that warm horse piss. You would instantly lose your sense of taste of course though you could happily munch on a coronavirus sandwich. Personally I wouldn't recommend either, just wash your hands with it, clean the front door knocker/bell/handle whatever and be wary of any external packages.

Someone only has to sneeze near your Amazon goodies or speak next to it and your packaging could be contaminated with a viable colony of SARs-CoV 2 just waiting to get onto your hands and into your mouth and eyes. It can persist for up 72 hours on a non porous surface (temperature dependent).

We digress. 65% IPA (isopropyl alcohol :hmmm: ) mixed with strained Aloe Vera (so the fibres don't jam up your nozzle so to speak) and a couple of drops of Tea Tree oil for flavouring. Good on wounds too. I was lucky to get it too. £19 for 5 litres and later that week, IPA was selling on eBay 5 litres @ £125.

(most people don't realise how much sputum they release as droplets and aerosol just by speaking! - hence why masks DO work, just not to protect you)
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I reckon I already had it earlier in the year, it's went though our depot and one big brute of a bloke is still off, they only tested me after I was ready to go back to work and according to a medical friend I probably didn't do it right anyway being a self test. I reckon that having never smoked has helped me a lot.

I spend my day behind a perspex screen although I do handle the money from the punters, we're limited to 38 on a decker off it's a normal service, but school services can be right up to the plated load, which is 74-77 depending on the decker type.

I'll be honest, I hate masks, I'll wear one in a shop or on a bus if I'm in the saloon, but as soon as I'm off the bus, it's off.
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