Covid restrictions - are you adhering or not?

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Have you been sticking rigidly to the rules, with no ifs, buts, or conditions?

Yes, I've followed to the letter.
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Kind of, I'm being sensible and reducing contact with people.
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No, I'm carrying on regardless
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cheb wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:23 am How about you read the link before you post it?

Quick edit BTW. Skillz.
I did read it. You Snooze You Lose.
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DefTrap wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:21 am Well all I can say that the amount of funding that goes into my local (French) GPs and what I experienced in the UK is stark. Masses more kit than in the UK. I don't doubt that Germany GPs are similarly kitted out.

This isn't to have a pop at the UK or big up the EU nor mock the NHS. More to point out that some of these dogwhistle articles arent even remotely based upon any facts.
Do the French or German hospitals have loads of manky people hanging around by the front doors in operating gowns and smoking?
I always thought that if you got rid of those then most UK hospitals would be pretty much deserted.
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When Mrs D was in the labour ward the bird next to her kept unhooking herself from the baby heart monitor so she could go outside for a fag. :D

That was topped only by the overheard discussion point with her other half: "When we met 10 months ago who'd have thought we'd be here now!".
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:26 pm When Mrs D was in the labour ward the bird next to her kept unhooking herself from the baby heart monitor so she could go outside for a fag. :D

That was topped only by the overheard discussion point with her other half: "When we met 10 months ago who'd have thought we'd be here now!".
Woman who lived in the flat above mine:

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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:26 pm When Mrs D was in the labour ward the bird next to her kept unhooking herself from the baby heart monitor so she could go outside for a fag. :D

That was topped only by the overheard discussion point with her other half: "When we met 10 months ago who'd have thought we'd be here now!".
I can top that.

At St Richards hospital in Chichester there is a specialist ward for inpatients with respiratory problems. When parking behind the hospital I've seen them outside the ward in wheelchairs in the sunshine, with drips attached, smoking.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:26 pm When Mrs D was in the labour ward the bird next to her kept unhooking herself from the baby heart monitor so she could go outside for a fag. :D

That was topped only by the overheard discussion point with her other half: "When we met 10 months ago who'd have thought we'd be here now!".
When my daughter was born 25 years ago,the partner of the woman in the bed beside Mrs.Skub was discovered in a cubicle getting off his tits on oxygen. :lol:
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Potter wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:36 am
Do the French or German hospitals have loads of manky people hanging around by the front doors in operating gowns and smoking?
I always thought that if you got rid of those then most UK hospitals would be pretty much deserted.
I've had to go up to the local place quite a lot lately.
Surprisingly few smokers! I could see an awful 'bus stop' style smoking shelter just far enough away from the front doors to be annoying to get to if it was raining. Never more than one occupant, I don't think covid conditions is exactly a fair test. Nobody that looked like they'd crawled there from their death beds, I don't think fecking about on your own is encouraged under covids either.
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irie wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:32 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:26 pm When Mrs D was in the labour ward the bird next to her kept unhooking herself from the baby heart monitor so she could go outside for a fag. :D

That was topped only by the overheard discussion point with her other half: "When we met 10 months ago who'd have thought we'd be here now!".
I can top that.

At St Richards hospital in Chichester there is a specialist ward for inpatients with respiratory problems. When parking behind the hospital I've seen them outside the ward in wheelchairs in the sunshine, with drips attached, smoking.
TBF the Venn diagram of "serious lung problems" and "life long 40 a dayer" is probably not far off circular :D
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DefTrap wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:30 pm an awful 'bus stop' style smoking shelter just far enough away from the front doors to be annoying to get to if it was raining.
Probably would be equally annoying for non-smokers if they had to pass through the acrid fog of smoke if the smokers were huddled around the doorway.
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Horse wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:43 pm
Probably would be equally annoying for non-smokers if they had to pass through the acrid fog of smoke if the smokers were huddled around the doorway.
I don't think it would be that difficult to site it so that they didn't get wet on the way or if it was decorated so they could imagine they were smoking in a sexy cocktail bar like the old days.
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A portent of what is to come :( (Ripped off from the Telegraph).

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Dunkirk Covid-19 outbreak offers bleak window into future as France vaccine programme lags

Dunkirk's proximity to Britain, where a more contagious variant of Covid-19 has spread like wildfire, has quickly triggered a health crisis

By Anna Pujol-Mazzini
27 February 2021 • 12:43pm

The French city of Dunkirk had long prided itself on being the main port of entry for Britons into Europe, and welcoming scores of British tourists to its beaches and wine shops.

But in February, its proximity to Britain, where a more contagious variant of Covid-19 has spread like wildfire, quickly triggered a health crisis.

"We're an important point of entry into Europe for Britain. This time it did not work out well for us," Thomas Roussez, from the city hall, told the Telegraph.

"We did not manage to detect [the variant] early enough. When we realised it we were already on very high rates," he added.

All eyes in France are now fixed on Dunkirk and other similar hotspots like Nice. Panicked health officials are warning that the overwhelmed hospitals and rising epidemic is a window into what is to come for the rest of the country as the vaccination programme is in disarray.

The jarring glimpse is a stark warning for Emmanuel Macron, the French president, who has faced increasing pressure to bring in new restrictions just as the UK is planning for its grand reopening.

It is a conundrum present across much of the continent, acutely felt in Central Europe where case rises are on the march once again.

Dinkirk's first cases of the so-called Kent variant are believed to have reached the city through truck drivers coming from Britain. Quickly, the city of 90,000 had the highest incidence rate of Covid-19 in the country.

Dunkirk's Covid-19 rate has risen from 658 to 901 cases per 100,000 of the population in a week, more than four times the national average.

These days, one person dies every day of the virus. Funeral homes take twice as long to ready bodies for burial because of the unprecedented numbers. The city's main hospital reached its maximum capacity weeks ago, and doctors dread having to cancel surgeries as case numbers keep rising.

"We still have not at all reached the peak. We estimate that will be in two weeks," said Dr Paupard, who heads the doctors' commission at Dunkirk's hospital.

The southern city of Nice joined Dunkirk in being put under a strict weekend lockdown, the first time such a measure is applied locally in France.

In a Thursday address, prime minister Jean Castex asked local officials in ten other areas where cases are rising to propose plans for tighter restrictions, in a desperate bid to avoid a third national lockdown.

These included Meurthe-et-Moselle, in northeast France, where up to 25 per cent of new cases are estimated to be from the South African or Brazilian variant. One in 20 new Covid-19 cases in France are estimated to be of these variants.

Both Dunkirk and Nice were caught off guard by the speed of the spread of the more contagious British variant, and experts say they offer a glimpse into the catastrophic scenario France could find itself in by springtime, raising questions over president Macron's decision to avoid a lockdown last month.

Initially, it seemed as though Mr Macron's Covid-19 gamble had paid off. Daily infections were falling and the president was enjoying approval ratings significantly higher than those of his predecessors at similar stages in their presidency.

But modelling by France's research body Institut Pasteur published on Wednesday showed that without new restrictions, hospital admissions would skyrocket from 1,300 to 10,000 per day by May.

In January, 52 per cent of French people thought the government's decision to avoid a lockdown was a mistake, according to a Harris Interactive poll.

The scientific council advising the French government on public health strategy during the epidemic had recommended a strict lockdown in late January, but its report was not made public until last week.

Dinkirk's first cases of the so-called Kent variant are believed to have reached the city through truck drivers coming from Britain 

While Britain has provided a roadmap for the lifting of restrictions and a return to normality by the summer, France is likely to face a rise in Covid-19 infections and a lockdown, which has been demanded by several politicians and scientific experts.

Several mayors, including in the northern cities of Lille and Calais, have come out in favour of at least localised lockdowns to prevent already overwhelmed hospitals from reaching a breaking point.

On Friday, the deputy mayor of Paris lashed out at "half-measures" such as the weekend lockdowns which were "highly restrictive" but would have "little impact on the health situation." But Paris will aim to avoid a strict lockdown at all costs, Emmanuel Gregoire said.

At its current speed, one of the slowest in Europe, France's vaccination campaign will not provide much-needed respite quickly enough. Only 4 per cent of French people have received a first dose of the vaccine so far, and 2 per cent a second.

Opinion polls show about 58 percent of French citizens say they won't take the jab, making it the most vaccine-averse country in the world.

In the meantime, doctors in Dunkirk are trying to contain the epidemic in their city, which they have likened to "a tidal current" rather than a wave.

"We are clearly no longer on a wave, we are on what we can call a tidal current," said Dr Christophe Couturier, the emergency director at the hospital.

Despite frontline health workers working overtime, if cases keep rising, he is concerned "the dam will break."
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weeksy wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:49 pm This has been a long arse winter of lockdown, people have been locked up for a large chunk of a year. With the figures as they are, vaccinations as they are and a lovely sunny day, you'd be crazy to expect anything else.
Then they had better get used to more lockdowns...the stupid selfish bastids. 😠
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OBO wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:02 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:49 pm This has been a long arse winter of lockdown, people have been locked up for a large chunk of a year. With the figures as they are, vaccinations as they are and a lovely sunny day, you'd be crazy to expect anything else.
Then they had better get used to more lockdowns...the stupid selfish bastids. 😠
one mans selfish is another mans essential.

I'm still of the opinion being outside and sensible holds very little in the way of risk
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weeksy wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:27 pm
OBO wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:02 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:49 pm This has been a long arse winter of lockdown, people have been locked up for a large chunk of a year. With the figures as they are, vaccinations as they are and a lovely sunny day, you'd be crazy to expect anything else.
Then they had better get used to more lockdowns...the stupid selfish bastids. 😠
one mans selfish is another mans essential.

I'm still of the opinion being outside and sensible holds very little in the way of risk
I agree. I went to Audley End yesterday, not busy but fair few people about. But everyone was staying in their own family groups with no mixing and all socially distanced. We sat at a bench and had a sandwich and a coffee for about 5 mins, I'm sure some people would call it a picnic but it was far from that. We stopped ate and continued walking. From the scientific evidence outdoor transmission sounds pretty low risk indeed.

I'd get it if there was 30 of us all sat down with chairs and playing footie and rounders but I've seen none of that. Although again the evidence suggests even that probably isn't the evil most of us think it is.

On a psychological front I'm really feeling lockdown. Audley was the first time I've driven in the car with the family more than 2 miles since Oct and the first family walk not within 2 miles of my house. I've seen hardly anyone bar neighbours for a quick chat. I had a really nice day yesterday, but by the evening my mood really darkened with the thought of more groundhog day for months. I don't feel like I've been free to do what I wanted since Feb last year and it isn't good for the mind at all.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:27 pm
OBO wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:02 pm
weeksy wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:49 pm This has been a long arse winter of lockdown, people have been locked up for a large chunk of a year. With the figures as they are, vaccinations as they are and a lovely sunny day, you'd be crazy to expect anything else.
Then they had better get used to more lockdowns...the stupid selfish bastids. 😠


I'm still of the opinion being outside and sensible holds very little in the way of risk
I fully agree with you bud...I'm just seeing quite alot of "nonsensible" going on down here. ☺
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OBO wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:58 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:27 pm
OBO wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:02 pm
Then they had better get used to more lockdowns...the stupid selfish bastids. 😠


I'm still of the opinion being outside and sensible holds very little in the way of risk
I fully agree with you bud...I'm just seeing quite alot of "nonsensible" going on down here. ☺
Luckily for me, i don't often go 'anywhere' in honesty. Apart from MTBing and some hospital visits which require CV19 testing in advance, i barely leave the house. Living in a village it's easy not to see the bigger picture.
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I'm being good and staying local, essential journeys only, not using motorbike for jollies and keeping to the 2 m rule. Neighbourhood watching. However, its all bollox.

Everybodys going to work, 2 m in the workplace not being adhered to. I read, 50% of London hospital staff aren't having the vaccine. Someone travelling back from Brazil might be spreading it all over the place, Airport quarantine non existence. and I still can't have a little jolly on my own. 🙁👎
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Dodgy knees wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:21 pm I'm being good and staying local, essential journeys only, not using motorbike for jollies and keeping to the 2 m rule. Neighbourhood watching. However, its all bollox.

Everybodys going to work, 2 m in the workplace not being adhered to. I read, 50% of London hospital staff aren't having the vaccine. Someone travelling back from Brazil might be spreading it all over the place, Airport quarantine non existence. and I still can't have a little jolly on my own. 🙁👎
I don't think anyone is supposed to spread the virus around, but some people do and the authorities don't seem to be too hot on punishment for it.

There was someone on one of the FB groups talking about "taking back control" - which is fair enough because a lot of people don't take control over their own lives, they moan if their lives aren't super but do nothing about it themselves - but in this case he just meant that he wanted to ignore the lockdown rules so he could go out and do whatever he wanted.

People are cooped up and getting resentful. Resent is funny thing, it gets us all in some ways. My old mum is sitting there slowing dying from something and I can't visit her - well I could but I'd have to break the law - and some twat on the news this morning has driven to Matlock for a bag of chips as an excuse for a day out when he lives miles away. I don't wish that he drowns in his own lung fluid, but I would like to give him a solid kick in the bollocks.
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We can go out at night again. :)
Following the extra Governing Council meeting this afternoon with the Ministry of Health, the president of the Canary Islands government, Ángel Víctor Torres, has announced changes in levels for the islands, and alterations to several regulations within those levels.

The only change of level is for Lanzarote, who after several weeks of tough restrictions in Level 4, have been reduced to Level 3 due to the good evolution of their data, meaning that commercial businesses and bars and restaurants will be able to have terraces open til 10pm not 6pn, and groups of 4 will be allowed to meet, while the rest of the islands remain in the same levels as before
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Congraulations. I'm very much looking forward to a bit of that. Even just outside at the local brewery for a pint and a pizza, that'd just be fabulous at the moment.