Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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weeksy wrote:
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LOL trust me here, I can resist.
Resistance is FUTILE
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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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rusty wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:35 am
weeksy wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:21 am
WEll that was a minor pain in the arse. I was checking something last night and i'd put the top shock mount bolt on the wrong way round, I had the 17mm end on the throttle side and the 14mm on the clutch side. Now, why does that matter you may ask yourselves. The answer is, that on the mounting point on the 17mm side there's a 'ridge' which is what one of the faces of the 17mm head sits on, which means when you tighten it from the 14mm side it uses the ridge to enable you to torque to 42Nm. Now when it's the other way round, the ridge actually gets in the way of you putting the socket on fully so you can't actually torque it up to the correct setting.
So we had the fiddly arsing about of getting it all back out, then in the opposite way round..

I'm now heading to the office for the first time in many many months to install a server and some cables.
Going to work for a rest by the sounds of it :D
You're not far off the mark there actually

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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This Yamaha malarkey has got me thinking about my next bike.

Monster 821 probably 68 plate or newer or an XRS 900.

Nice decision to have but I've had the F800r sport for almost a whole year. :eh:

What to do, what to do...........

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Buckaroo wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:55 pm
This Yamaha malarkey has got me thinking about my next bike.

Monster 821 probably 68 plate or newer or an XRS 900.

Nice decision to have but I've had the F800r sport for almost a whole year. :eh:

What to do, what to do...........
As you've gathered, I'm most shocked by it and love the thing, apart from today, I've ridden it every day since buying it. That's only because it was wet today. I'm actually more excited about bikes than I have been in years

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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Brembo SA pads on their way today... Silverstone in under 3 weeks and i'd like them as good as possible.

Also a few bits of pointless tat.

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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Well you know me by now out in RTTL land and the insanity once again grew and reared it's head in my world.

After a chunk of thinking last night and out on a decent length ride today over to Odiham, Alton, Basingstoke, Newbury and home i was thinking about some of the harshness on the bumps, when you hit a bump it's a bit 'ooft' at times.
What i couldn't understand is that every sod on the road wants to race at the moment. Mercedes AMG A45 (or A35) wanted to play... He was thrashed, then a bit later an Audi S3, who really gave a good showing of himself on fastish sweepers, he was making proper strong overtakes lol. But i gave him a wave and pulled away as he got caught up in traffic.

So i thought, well, we didn't really give that Nitron much of a chance in the grand scheme, once i realised it made the handling not quite right i lobbed it on Ebay. What i actually should have done was a bit more research, then spent 5 minutes setting the shock length to the exact same length as the standard shock instead of it being 6mm shorter. Now 6mm doesn't sound like much, but the rule of 3 comes into play (so i've been told anyway) and 6mm on the shock length is x3 so 18mm in rideheight at the sadlle/back end. Which is pretty much where i found it to be when measuring.

So the standard shock was pulled out again, the Nitron set to the correct length and installed. I'm getting better at the installs now as it was only 30 mins to do it instead of 3 hours !!! hahahahha.

But the Nitron is in and ready to play. It's a bit damp and showery for a test now, but it'll get done in the next day or 2 depending on the weather.

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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weeksy wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:27 pm
But i gave him a wave and pulled away as he got caught up in traffic.
Orgasmic, isn't it.

I followed a black Lamborghini in traffic, lots of revving, I must admit it sounded awesome, some overtakes. Then I just pottered past him and half a dozen others at the next lights. I even slowed down in the hope he'd come and play but never saw him again.

4 wheels 600 bhp soundly beaten by 2 wheels and 47 bhp.

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So, does it make any difference...

Hell yes, it's great. Way nicer... Impressed.

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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weeksy wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:27 pm
Well you know me by now out in RTTL land and the insanity once again grew and reared it's head in my world.

After a chunk of thinking last night and out on a decent length ride today over to Odiham, Alton, Basingstoke, Newbury and home i was thinking about some of the harshness on the bumps, when you hit a bump it's a bit 'ooft' at times.
What i couldn't understand is that every sod on the road wants to race at the moment. Mercedes AMG A45 (or A35) wanted to play... He was thrashed, then a bit later an Audi S3, who really gave a good showing of himself on fastish sweepers, he was making proper strong overtakes lol. But i gave him a wave and pulled away as he got caught up in traffic.

So i thought, well, we didn't really give that Nitron much of a chance in the grand scheme, once i realised it made the handling not quite right i lobbed it on Ebay. What i actually should have done was a bit more research, then spent 5 minutes setting the shock length to the exact same length as the standard shock instead of it being 6mm shorter. Now 6mm doesn't sound like much, but the rule of 3 comes into play (so i've been told anyway) and 6mm on the shock length is x3 so 18mm in rideheight at the sadlle/back end. Which is pretty much where i found it to be when measuring.

So the standard shock was pulled out again, the Nitron set to the correct length and installed. I'm getting better at the installs now as it was only 30 mins to do it instead of 3 hours !!! hahahahha.

But the Nitron is in and ready to play. It's a bit damp and showery for a test now, but it'll get done in the next day or 2 depending on the weather.
I was a bit surprised that an aftermarket shock didn't perform as well as OEM, kinda defeats their point of being really. Surely there must be some recommended settings you can dial in as well as getting the ride height right? Glad you're enjoying playing with it rather than getting frustrated by it. Half the fun of a new bike I reckon. :thumbup:

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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Taipan wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:15 pm
I was a bit surprised that an aftermarket shock didn't perform as well as OEM, kinda defeats their point of being really. Surely there must be some recommended settings you can dial in as well as getting the ride height right? Glad you're enjoying playing with it rather than getting frustrated by it. Half the fun of a new bike I reckon. :thumbup:
That was kind where i found my thought patterns "Surely this should be better" so was time to give it a go before it ended up with a courier.

There's other adjustments yes, but i'll leave them until Silverstone and either see how it handles there or potentially give to the twiddler guy there to fettle.

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Mmmmmm nice pads.

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Well that was a complete disaster... been waiting days for the R&G tail tidy to arrive, it came yesterday and i jumped in the garage to fit it.

First page of the instructions "cut wiring loom..." errrrm nope, sorry. Reading the blurb it was supposed to be plug and play... i guess that depends on your interpretation of plug and play doesn't it... but mine doesn't involve cutting off any of my loom/connectors. So that's going back to the retailer.

The other 2 main suppliers still leave the bike tail light in place, located sightly better but not night and day better.

There is this one...

https://www.newragecycles.com/Yamaha_XS ... xsr-fe.htm

But not sure if that's TOO radical

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Where do you need to cut the loom for the tail tidy?

I'm pretty sure mine was plug and play. Like you I had no interest in cutting the wiring on the bike hence going for the R&G.

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Re: Happy new bike day.... WTF, what do you mean it's a Yamaha ???

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rusty wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:23 am
Where do you need to cut the loom for the tail tidy?

I'm pretty sure mine was plug and play. Like you I had no interest in cutting the wiring on the bike hence going for the R&G.
Am i missing something then ? the rear light has little tiny wires with no connectors etc. It comes with about 100 bullet connectors and nothing i can see that replicates the rear light connector on the bike as standard.

https://assets1.rg-racing.com/Images/fi ... H-CONS.pdf

Looking here, i'm not seeing part 16 or indeed 17.... i may have to go in and check the garage and box again then. That would obviously change things considerably if present.

edit. Yep, them parts are missing.

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Definitely had 16 and 17 in mine.

I think there was a few bullet connectors in with the kit but they were possibly for aftermarket indicators.

From what I remember the instructions weren't particularly good and looked like they'd been printed with a potato.

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rusty wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:48 am
Definitely had 16 and 17 in mine.

I think there was a few bullet connectors in with the kit but they were possibly for aftermarket indicators.

From what I remember the instructions weren't particularly good and looked like they'd been printed with a potato.
Indeed the on-line version is a LOT cleared and deffo none of them bits are present in my box. So it's back off to supplier with a few words added.

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weeksy wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:49 am
rusty wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:48 am
Definitely had 16 and 17 in mine.

I think there was a few bullet connectors in with the kit but they were possibly for aftermarket indicators.

From what I remember the instructions weren't particularly good and looked like they'd been printed with a potato.
Indeed the on-line version is a LOT cleared and deffo none of them bits are present in my box. So it's back off to supplier with a few words added.
Good call.
I basically took my iPad to the garage and used that for the instructions as it was so much clearer.
It's well worth it, fitting it makes a huge difference to the look of the bike.

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hilldweller wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:42 pm
weeksy wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:27 pm
But i gave him a wave and pulled away as he got caught up in traffic.
Orgasmic, isn't it.

I followed a black Lamborghini in traffic, lots of revving, I must admit it sounded awesome, some overtakes. Then I just pottered past him and half a dozen others at the next lights. I even slowed down in the hope he'd come and play but never saw him again.

4 wheels 600 bhp soundly beaten by 2 wheels and 47 bhp.

Oh YEH !
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rusty wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:57 am
weeksy wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:49 am
rusty wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:48 am
Definitely had 16 and 17 in mine.

I think there was a few bullet connectors in with the kit but they were possibly for aftermarket indicators.

From what I remember the instructions weren't particularly good and looked like they'd been printed with a potato.
Indeed the on-line version is a LOT cleared and deffo none of them bits are present in my box. So it's back off to supplier with a few words added.
Good call.
I basically took my iPad to the garage and used that for the instructions as it was so much clearer.
It's well worth it, fitting it makes a huge difference to the look of the bike.
You'll get no argument there from me, it deffo looks a chunk nicer, but as much as some think the standard tail end is wrong, i think its kind of appropriate to the look they were going for so i'm not massively against it myself.

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I'm having this sort of debate with myself about a tailtidy on the 890- I put one on the 790 of course, but am not massively in love with the look of any of them, they shorten things up a bit too much for my liking- having said that, I don't like the standard monster-sized one either, hmmm....