Trail braking - on the road?

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Re: Trail braking - on the road?

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Yorick wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:05 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:02 pm
Wull wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:37 pm See the problem here is abs does not give mechanical grip, it stops the front tyre from locking up, the other purpose of trail braking is about loading the front tyre increasing contact patch and grip.

The same principle applies to the rear tyre, when you exit a corner or start to load the rear tyre by applying the throttle the tyre loads increasing contact patch allowing you to then get on the gas more and more etc, if you were to give it loads of gas straight away the tyre hasn’t had a chance to load and will just spin up.
So to sum up, braking and accelerating smoothly is better than grabbing the front brake or banging the throttle wide open - did you really need to be told this?
I reckon 80% of the trackday crashes that I saw were exiting corners. ;)
And most of the others are people going straight on in a panic when they could have got round the corner.
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Re: Trail braking - on the road?

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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:17 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:05 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:02 pm

So to sum up, braking and accelerating smoothly is better than grabbing the front brake or banging the throttle wide open - did you really need to be told this?
I reckon 80% of the trackday crashes that I saw were exiting corners. ;)
And most of the others are people going straight on in a panic when they could have got round the corner.
No, not really.
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Re: Trail braking - on the road?

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Must just be the fools I see then
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Re: Trail braking - on the road?

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weeksy wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:49 pm And not all one off happenings will happen to everyone on the planet.
You can't compensate, plan or plot for every eventually of circumstance that may come up.

Sometimes you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and no amount of 'do this' is going to stop you lying down.
Yes, there ARE situations from which there is no possible get-out clause.

But they are surprisingly rare. The accident stats prove that. The vast majority of riders do not have unavoidable 'one-off' crashes. Most riders have the same crashes that have been happening since Gottlieb Daimler first stuck a petrol engine between the wheels of a bicycle and called it a motorcycle.

And that means you CAN equip yourself with the skills to deal with the vast majority of things that can go wrong.

And frankly, running in too hot into corners, or having to slow down mid-corner to deal with something you couldn't see on the way in, fall into the "I should have seen that coming" end of the spectrum.
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